Session Start: Thu Jan 11 18:40:15 2007
Session Ident: #apache-synapse
* Now talking in #apache-synapse
<asankhap> hi everyone
<paulfremantle> hey asankha
<paulfremantle> so do you think its time we had a better logo?
<asankhap> definitely ;-)!
<paulfremantle> wso2 has a pretty decent graphics guy if we can him some
ideas
<ant_> just went looking, didn't there used to be one on the top of the
website?
<paulfremantle> yes
<paulfremantle> its not very good
<asankhap> ant: yes.. i remember.. i guess it went off when I generated
the site again with maven2
<asankhap> i agree with paul...
<ant_> i thought that was ok, but if you can get a better one great :)
<paulfremantle> well i dont really know
<paulfremantle> but we could have a go
<ant_> another thing could be a picture/diagram on the front page,
<paulfremantle> yes
<paulfremantle> didn't i do one at one point?
<ant_> something along the line of what mule or servicemix do:
http://mule.mulesource.org/wiki/display/MULE/Home
<saminda> Paul, we need that architechture guide going, that you have set up
<asankhap> yes.. a picture would be really cool to get somone new
introduced to what synapse is
<paulfremantle> how about this:
<paulfremantle> ftp://fremantle.org/synapse_diagram.PNG
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<paulfremantle> for a starting point
<gdaniels> Morning folks!
<paulfremantle> hey!
<ant_> i'm artistically challenged so wont be volunteering :)
<gdaniels> sorry to be late
<paulfremantle> morning
<paulfremantle> no problem
<gdaniels> we talking logos? :)
<ant_> hi glen
<asankhap> hi glen
<paulfremantle> yes logos and diagrams
<ant_> that diagram looks good paul
<saminda> yes
<paulfremantle> let me see if we can smarten it up a bit
<asankhap> yeah.. i think it could be made to look a bit more interesting
<saminda> SMTP; JSON should have been good addition to the Pauls diagram
<asankhap> also proxy services?
<ant_> and scripting :)
<paulfremantle> well we don't want it too crowded
<ant_> should the light blue arrows be the other way up for services?
<gdaniels> diagram url?
<paulfremantle> the arrows originally designated contracts
<asankhap> ftp://fremantle.org/synapse_diagram.PNG
<gdaniels> tnx
<gdaniels> now the REALLY cool thing that I think we should be thinking
about eventually is the fact that the boundary between "synapse" and the
clients/services is a virtual one and not a physical one
<saminda> IMHO I think the "Service" at this point act as a client
<paulfremantle> yes.... but how are you going to draw that? :-)
<gdaniels> i.e. depending on your deployment the Synapse
"mesh/fabric/bus" is either inside or outside your box
<paulfremantle> yes
<gdaniels> you draw that by having the central box "extend" up into some
of the client/service boxes
<paulfremantle> ok cool
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<asankhap> paul.. do you think moving the website to cwiki would make it
easier for all to manage it ?
<paulfremantle> i think so.... i find the whole maven build/svn up a bit
painful
<asankhap> i am ok to do that.. as long as its possible to upload
javadoc api's etc as a batch when required
<asankhap> yes.. i agree
<paulfremantle> well we could still do JavaDoc the old way
<paulfremantle> and point to that
<ant_> we're probbaly going to do that for Tuscany as well. Everyone
seems to think it will be easier
<asankhap> sure +1
<paulfremantle> i also like the design
<paulfremantle> it looks simple, clean, professional
<paulfremantle> no-nonsense
<gdaniels> that sounds good to me
<paulfremantle> heres what QPid have done Glen:
http://cwiki.apache.org/qpid/
<gdaniels> That does look nice.
<paulfremantle> so does anyone have any logo ideas?
<gdaniels> Yup
<gdaniels> Haven't drawn it out yet but I was thinking about a stylized
design of connected circles which looks like a small neural net
<paulfremantle> oh cool
<paulfremantle> sounds neat
<gdaniels> might look too close to some other stuff tho
<gdaniels> I can try to draw it over the weekend
<paulfremantle> ok cool
<paulfremantle> i was saying before you got here
<saminda> with Logo in mind; do we have a plan to get syanpse
architecture document to be ship with 1.0
<paulfremantle> we have a graphics guy at wso2 who would be able to take
some ideas and maybe makes some options
<paulfremantle> yes +1 saminda (I know its on my plate!)
<gdaniels> we should (if you haven't already) also send out a call for
logo ideas to the list
<paulfremantle> yes
<paulfremantle> will do
<paulfremantle> done
<gdaniels> :)
<paulfremantle> right guys im afraid i gtg
<paulfremantle> will someone please post the rest of the chat?
<asankhap> ok.. i will do
<paulfremantle> thanks
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<asankhap> hi dims
<asankhap> deos anyone else have any other topics to be discussed today?
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Session Close: Thu Jan 11 19:13:25 2007
Session Start: Thu Jan 11 19:13:38 2007
Session Ident: #apache-synapse
* Now talking in #apache-synapse
<asankha> sorry i got disconnected
<asankha> i guess thats it for todays chat then.. i will post the log
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