Hey James,

Thanks for jumping in.

At a high level, we can definitely cc you on all bugs and work related to 
milestone 1.  I can take the action to provide you code drops with a clear 
explanation of what is inside and what's ready for testing at various points of 
the work.

I agree that we need to produce a more stable staging environment for the 
Firefox Account server that we can test against, this is the same point that 
Nick brought up.  We need a snapshot of the Auth API that we can build against.

Danny - What's a good sha of the auth API to work against, and how does having 
a stage environment running that sha sound to you?  (what we have now is 
considered dev, right?)

lloyd

On Aug 15, 2013, at 4:05 AM, James Bonacci <[email protected]> wrote:

> Well, then, let me just pile on some more here since I forgot to add this to 
> my last reply....
> 
> Regardless of the path we take to get to Milestone 1, v1, etc...
> We need to include QA in the planning/scheduling/thinking/doing (add us to 
> the wikis/pads/content please):
> 
> 
> "Who's doing the work:"
> QA: I will be leading the QA efforts for Milestone 1 with direct support from 
> the entire
> Services QA team under Edwin Wong.
> Some Android- and Desktop-specific testing, especially in the areas of tools 
> and automation,
> will be indirectly supported by the respective QA teams, with guidance and 
> scheduling to be provided
> by Bob Moss and the QA management staff.
> 
> Once this hits Nightly, end-to-end testing by the entire QA team will need to 
> be coordinated.
> Input from Dev and OPs will be greatly appreciated at that time to help scope 
> the work, resources, and 
> scheduling in order to meet the various Milestone 1 goals and deadlines.
> 
> "What's next:"
> Nick, please mark all significant/testable bugs with the [qa+] label and cc 
> me.
> Lloyd, if you could do the same for the desktop bugs, it would be greatly 
> appreciated.
> Alternatively, I can walk through both sets of bugs with you two (a sort of 
> triage) and add the 
> necessary labels and the names of QA that will want/need to track the bugs.
> 
> 
> "Key Steps"
> This is where input from QA and OPs will be extremely helpful.
> One for testing and qualifying the work.
> The other to actually perform the necessary deployments to Stage and 
> Production.
> In addition, we may need to accelerate the schedule of bringing up the 
> PiCL/Sync Stage environment for
> testing the Milestone 1 code in a production-like environment. Right now that 
> environment does not exist.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> James
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ryan Kelly" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 5:55:38 PM
> Subject: Re: Client Implementation - Milestone 1
> 
> On 15/08/2013 4:44 AM, Richard Newman wrote:
>> 
>> There's been some talk over the past few months about using Sync 1.1 plus 
>> FxA to achieve some of this. I support doing so, if we can do the following:
>> 
>> * Build and deliver device management and service discovery/negotiation, 
>> such that we can have one auth flag day, and have the next transition -- to 
>> better storage/client/etc -- be managed by our service discovery/capability 
>> stuff. We'll need this anyway, and this is point 5 in the last email.
>> 
>> * From an engineering/product perspective, we must explicitly regard the 
>> Sync 1.1 code as a dead-end (a hacky stopgap), just as it is right now, and 
>> don't waste time fixing and extending it beyond life-support.
> 
> +1.  We need to commit to building something better, and have a concrete
> plan for how we'll transition to it.
> 
>> This has the two large caveats: that we absolutely need product buy-in for 
>> both stages, and that Mark and Ryan are on board.
> 
> Mark and I are both on record as being happy to ship this atop the
> Sync1.1 servers, so I guess we can't back out now :-)
> 
> We'll need to do some non-trivial server-side work for durability
> purposes, but that can happen in parallel and transparently to the client.
> 
> 
>  Ryan
> 
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