On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 01:32:52PM +0200, Michael Olbrich wrote: > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 09:38:22AM +0200, Olav Vitters wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 06:44:25PM +0200, Michael Olbrich wrote: > > > This is not about the files from systemd. It's about the dependencies. > > > Every user of a source based distro, that only wants systemd now has to > > > first install dbus then udev, and then remove dbus again. > > > > Shouldn't the build system do this automatically? > > Why should it? The equivalent for a normal distro would be to require e.g. > perl in udev for a post-install script only. And then you expect the > package manager to understand this and install perl before installing udev > and remove it again afterwards.
Not really. There are build time dependencies and runtime dependencies. Build time stuff is only of a concern of building the software. Has no relevance to post-install scripts (talking about post-install rpm scripts, not sure if you mean the same). > > I can understand it is inconvenient and makes things slower, but if > > you're building from source anyway, a few build time dependencies > > is ok? > > While I try to keep the dependencies at a minimum, this is not the real > issue. > I don't think you understand the embedded use-case. Right now what we have > is basically a set of rules (how to build things) and some configuration > (what to build). And with one command we get a root filesystem image. > The configuration is more or less a list of packages to build. Now I need > two lists, what to build and what to include in the final image. And while > it is possible to implement this, it's also a lot more complex than fixing > the real issue for udev. This is part of the build systems for the distributions that I know (rpm based; opensuse, fedora, rhel, mageia, mandriva). Forgot how apt does it, assume it has the same functionality. What I mean that you have Requires: and BuildRequires:. What you need for building is not what dependencies are needed once it has been built. It sometimes happens that to apply a patch you need additional BuildRequires to e.g. regenerate 'configure' and so on. That won't result in any extra runtime dependencies. -- Regards, Olav _______________________________________________ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
