On 02/12/2014 07:37 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
these are all regressions from F19 to F20
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1023820
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1010572
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1057811
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1057618
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1023788

sometimes it feels like systemd-upstrearm has a release-and-forget-strategy
and don't care about the downstream distributions and issues there nor
how bad the impact of them for how long is

I'm not so sure you are aware of this but the major part of systemd maintenance in Fedora is and has been handled by Zbyszek for the past year which is doing that on his own free time and before him it was Michal who is a Red Hat employee but working on completely different thing then systemd and he was also doing systemd downstream distribution maintenance on his own free time.

Both of them have been doing good job of maintaining systemd in the distribution and been extremely conservative in their maintainership so I suggest you keep your tone down towards people contributing their own free time to the project.

With regards to those RHEL bugs I suggest you follow Red Hat's official procedure dealing with those and file a support case after all that's what you are paying them for.

Ranting on upstream mailinglist will get you nowhere regardless if that upstream is partially on Red Hat's payroll or not...

JBG
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