On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 11:30:26AM +0200, David Herrmann wrote:
> Hi
> 
> On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 3:28 AM, Djalal Harouni <tix...@opendz.org> wrote:
> > ppoll is atomic and it is handled by the kernel, so perhaps
> > setting/restoring sigmask can be done easily! and for nspawn: IMO we need
> > to receive SIGCHLD which implies EINTR.
> >
> > I say EINTR since not only for blocking read or infinite poll, but
> > perhaps for all the other functions that the parent may do to setup the
> > environment of the container, currently nspawn will set network
> > interfaces before moving them into the container, it will also register
> > the machine, and perhaps other operations...
> >
> > So having EINTR errors is useful here not only for direct reads, but for
> > all the other calls that might block! IOW I think that nspawn should
> > have an empty sig handler for SIGCHLD.
> >
> > Barrier reads already use poll and pipe to handle remote abortion since
> > it can *not* be done by eventfd, yes this is perfect but for nspawn we
> > can also achieve the same by combining eventfd and SICCHLD!
> >
> > What do you think if we make Barrier use:
> > eventfd+pipe and/or eventfd+SIGCHLD ?
> >
> > Most complex fork/clone code should receive SIGCHLD, and think about
> > nspawn! we do want it to be as lightweigh as possible, having 4 fds by
> > default (2 eventfd + heavy pipe) may hit some resource limits quickly!
> >
> > compared to: 2 eventfd + empty sig handler!
> 
> My first attempt was to use a signalfd on SIGCHLD + edge-triggered. If
> I don't read from the signalfd and only use it to wake up and wall
> waitid(WNOWAIT), I won't interfere with other signalfds. However, this
> wasn't really more lightweight than the pipe-method so i ditched it.
Ok.

> Regarding dropping the pipe: pipe2() is _really_ fast. I mean, we're
> fork()ing and running like thousands of syscalls just during container
> setup. I cannot see how dropping one light pipe2 call is beneficial
> here? We also destroy the pipe before running the real container. So
> it's really just during setup.
Yes, compared to fork() and all the other stuff, pipe2() is fast. My
concern was about the other resources that pipe needs and the fd limit.

Of course, it depends on nspawn future and plans, 2 or 4 fds sure it
will affect systems that will run multiple nspawn instances... but
perhaps this is not an issue for nspawn!

Otherwise I'm ok with having a pipe as a mechanism to detect container
failure, and a good point for general cases: it does not interfere with
signal handlers

Thanks!

-- 
Djalal Harouni
http://opendz.org
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