Thanks for the link Brian. Very valuable.

Have you discussed moving 
cntvct-log<file:///CentOS/automotive/src/boot-time-analysis-tools/-/tree/main/cntvct-log>
 to systemd-analyze? IMHO, systemd can have better control when the target is 
reached to record the wall time.

Umut

From: systemd-devel <systemd-devel-boun...@lists.freedesktop.org> on behalf of 
Brian Masney <bmas...@redhat.com>
Date: Thursday, 26 September 2024 at 03:07
To: dharm...@microchip.com <dharm...@microchip.com>
Cc: sereni...@inventati.org <sereni...@inventati.org>, 
systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org <systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>
Subject: Re: [systemd-devel] Exploring Minimal Systemd in Initramfs for Faster 
Boot
On Wed, Sep 25, 2024 at 03:53:36PM +0000, dharm...@microchip.com wrote:
> yes something similar to this, I will experiment this and get back to you.
>
> and I think since the egt service and its libraries depend on the full
> rootfs, integrating initramfs might not provide significant benefits in
> terms of faster launch time. The time saved by using an initramfs to
> launch basic services earlier would likely be offset by the delay in
> mounting the root filesystem, which is necessary for accessing the egt
> libraries.

There are some drawbacks to putting your early service in the initramfs
and having it persist across the switch root to when systemd is started
again from the root filesystem.

- The initrd is a cpio archive, and increasing the size of the initrd is
  going to increase the kernel boot time since it will need to
  uncompress and extract the larger cpio archive.

- Any services started from the initrd will be started before the
  SELinux policy is loaded. Services started from the initrd will run
  with the kernel_t label.

- Services started from the initrd can't depend on almost anything like
  mounts, devices, services, dbus, etc so it's difficult to develop
  software of any complexity.

- Adding all of these dependencies to the initrd is only going to move
  the timing bottlenecks booting from the root filesystem to the initrd.

- Directives like Restart=always will likely not work as expected.

Personally I think that you should have the initramfs be small enough to
only get you to the root filesystem and start your early service from
the root filesystem.

Shameless self plug: Here's a presentation that I gave last month at
DevConf.us in Boston with Eric Curtin and Ed Chong about some of the
boot speed optimizations that a group of us worked on at Red Hat:
https://pretalx.com/devconf-us-2024/talk/HXVPHC/ . The talk also
lists some upstream patch sets that you will want to consider
including in your kernel to help with boot time.

Brian

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