> On 22 Jan 2026, at 12:24, [email protected] wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  
> I have been running systemd for many years and in general find it 
> well-behaved and easy to reason about.
>  
> One thing, that drives me nuts though is timer behavior. 
>  
> For context, this problem has persisted for years across many different 
> systemd version (currently 257) both as systemd and user timers.
>  
> Today I hit the problem again even if I asked both chatgpt and claude to help 
> ensure it will not happen. 
>  
> The problem is this:
>  
> I have a (user) service and a (user) timer, that fires that service every day 
> at 18:30. The timer is persistent=no.
> Yesterday, for reasons, the service should not be run, so I stopped the timer 
> (around 15:00, if I remember correctly). 
> Today, I want the timer to trigger the service at normal runtime (i.e. 
> 18:30), and I start the timer here at around 13:00.
>  
> Both being far away from the trigger time, I expected (and the llms agreed) 
> that it should wait til 18:30 to fire. As stated, persistent is false, I 
> specifically check that before activating the timer.
> And then (the problem), it immediately fired the service as I started the 
> timer. And I won an hour's worth of cleanup :(
>  
> Is that expected behavior, and if so, how do I get the behaviour that I wish 
> for?

Can you post the timer unit code please.

How exactly did you stop and then start the timer?

Barry

>  
> Regards, 
>  
> Svenne

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