On Tue, Mar 3, 2026 at 8:20 AM William L. Thomson Jr <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, 2026-03-03 at 08:05 +0200, Mantas Mikulėnas wrote:
> > >
> > That's not what it says, no. It shows the opposite relationship: a
> > session may "own" a set of processes – it is not run by any of those
> > processes.
>
> But a logind session lives within.


Within what?


>
> Sadly, may have to toss most of the contributed code, and if it came
> from AI, great, but if it is a young person's first foray into FOSS,
> most unfortunate, and I am still leaning towards a next gen FOSS
> developer in the making! Fingers crossed.
>
> But clearly the implementation is off. I may have to check out spawny
> someday to see if it does anything correctly, but I doubt it multi-
> seats so that is moot otherwise.
>
> > One of those processes is considered to be the "session leader" by
> > logind (these days it's gdm-session-worker, previously it could be
> > gnome-session directly), but that's relevant only as far as its
> > existence (if the leader exits, the session is considered abandoned);
> > the leader does not communicate with logind in any specific way and
> > is just the root of the session's process tree.
>
> Thanks, GDM seems just overly complex, I stopped running GDM and Gnome
> long ago, though I have long preferred it, C, etc. But the systemd and
> other stuff, no thanks.
>

That is not relevant to what I said.

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