John Molvar schreef: > "There are multiple reasons for Ma and his runners' disqualification," > said He Huixian, spokeswoman for the Chinese Olympic > Committee (COC), in a comment candid by the standards of Chinese > officials. "Some of them are dropped due to suspicious blood test > results." > Two or 3 years ago several list members pointed out that the Chinese > women were obviously cheating. Remember how viciously those people > were attacked on this list? I can't remember all the things said and > names they were called, but I remember "where's the proof", "you are > just jealous", "you're a bunch of racists", "your nationalistic pride > makes you jealous" and many other laughable phrases. Where are all > the name callers now? I'll tell you where you are. You are all > wiping the egg, I mean turtle juice and caterpillar fungus off your > faces (laugh). I hope we all still have a sense of humor? Hello all, I am getting (becoming?) afraid we are going to need that sense of humor to keep our spirits up, because I have already seen and heard of reports calling this the 'olympics of drugs' - referring to the nandrolone issue, the Ottey and Sotomayor reinstatements, imported doping (how dumb can one get?) and positive tests. With regard to the Chinese cheating, I also recall the arguments we had a few years ago. Indeed, a lot op people accused the Chinese of cheating. A few others objected to judging people without evidence (virtually all evidence was the level of performance itself). I do not recall many (even any) references to racism. With regard to nationality (not nationalism), I do remember some Europeans asking what was true about American athletes not being tested because of 'lack of money' (true or not, it is a popular story overhere) - which would make accusations of the Chinese a bit akward. But since now the Chinese were actually withdrawn because of doping tests (apparantly), I think even the then critics-of-the-critics will agree with you that there is doping in China. The question that remains is: do you think all other Chinese performances are suspect? And if so, does that work for any country: so do we suspect every Canadian because of the two recent cases? Of any Briton, because of the nandrolone? Any shot putter, because of Edwards/Bagach (he was the one testing positive the other day, wasn't he?)? Wilmar