Last season it had been reported that the "record" for a first-time track 5000m might be the 12:50.xx by Ali Saidi-Seif ... but it was later discovered that that he had a previous outing of 13:38 or so. Mark Carroll had a debut time of 27:46 in his first 10k race on the track: Stanford [Irish Record time of 27:46.82, 5th May 2000]. In this age of back-to-back 13:15's and 18 year-olds running 12:55 and 8:03 there must be faster "debut" times out there. Does anyone know what the "record" is for a first-try at 5k and 10k for men? how 'bout for women?
