Garry Hill writes in response to Roger Ruth:

<<the "luxury of publishing monthly" has nothing to do with it: it's the 
rule of caveat emptor that applies here, in the sense that anybody 
who relies on the "news media" for precise track & field information 
is only setting himself up for huge disappointment. To reallys stretch 
the analogy,you wouldn't attempt open-heart surgery after reading 
an account in your local rag would you? Then don't trust them to 
handle properly something as arcane as the metric system.>>

At some peril, I think I'm going to jump into this.  I guess what I'm 
looking for in clarification is a completion to this sentence:  Garry, 
who advises not relying on the "news media" for info, suggests that 
Roger instead...

rely on.....
wait for....
obtain the info from....

I say this as somebody who did the first draft of the women's pole 
vault and high jump annual performances for one of the FAST 
annuals a couple of years ago.  Notwithstanding a Track 
Newsletter subscription, and sometime marks from the Internet 
site of whoever hosted the meet, there were occasions where 
things were unclear and one wanted to know who to phone.  I 
recall an example from a meet somewhere in Idaho, I think it was, 
where an initial source or sources showed an NCAA collegian with 
an imperial value which was an in-between unlisted imperial value 
in the TFN Little Red Book.  Websites of the colleges of athletes 
sometimes added confusion rather than subtracting it, yielding--in 
rare cases--contradictions with Bob Podkaminer's qualifying marks 
that seemed to be of a metric vs. imperial nature.  Then there was 
one obscure high school meet with a mark I only chanced across, 
and Ed Grant or somebody in New Jersey made some phone calls 
to clarify a related discrepancy.  It turned out that there had been 
a double conversion, imperial to metric and back or vice versa, 
throwing the correct number off by a quarter-inch or centimeter. 
In Dragila WR cases, there are alternative sources on which to 
rely, at least eventually (e.g., Track Newsletter).  But in the 
obscure cases, I found the "news media" sometimes constituted 
the only source.  Except that in the high jump, they would do 
things like reporting a high school 5-0 or 5-1 as 5-10.  Or a rookie 
helper at the meet would do it for them.  I'd send a postcard to the 
coach, and she'd respond, "Boy, I wish!!"

That was then.  This is now.  Websites are much improved.  Also, 
a resource that probably could use more participation by those 
interested in such matters is the t-and-f_statistics list (messages 
archived at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/t-and-f_statistics).


Chris Kuykendall
Austin, Texas
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