This is the link to Tim Noakes' speech before the World Congress on Medicine and Health July/August 2000. I think it will help clarify many of these important issues. http://www.jonentine.com/reviews/world_congress_MM.htm -- Jon Entine RuffRun 6178 Grey Rock Rd. Agoura Hills, CA 91301 (818) 991-9803 [FAX] 991-9804 http://www.jonentine.com