Points in favour, points against, but is it in accordance with the
rules? What would happen if a record was set?
David Dallman
On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Shawn Devereaux wrote:
> Good reasons:
> For most athletes, taking your 3 attempts in a shorter span is a plus. Usually
> it'll be 10 minutes between attempts with 5-alive.
>
> Bad:
> It's very hard for the athlete to know when they're up in the order. You actually
> have to pay attention.
> It's hard for the fans to follow since not everyone is on the same attempt at a
> given height.
> It's painful if you're the official trying to keep track of the active.
>
> I don't really think it's worth the trouble if you have a good crew of officials.
> I've seen high school meets with over 60 vaulters entered, progress in the normal
> order from 11' to 16'0"+ in 6" increments, get completed in well less than 3 hours.
> Officials are the biggest hold up in the vault...not the vaulters or the number of
> attempts.
>
>
> Roger Ruth wrote:
>
> > Martin, Shawn:
> >
> > Thanks to both, for clearing up "five alive." Now that I know what it is,
> > I've not yet had time to decide what I think of it. Shawn, you probably
> > would have had some experience. Can you give us some
> > advantages/disadvantages vs. holding preliminaries/finals? Any other
> > vaulters want to comment? Trust the NCAA to put 22 competitors in a final!
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Roger
> >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: Shawn Devereaux
> > >To: Martin J. Dixon
> > >Cc: Track & Field List
> > >Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 8:20 PM
> > >Subject: Re: t-and-f: Pole vault question
> > >
> > >
> > >Five alive is the process of having only 5 athletes in the rotation at any
> > >given time. The purpose is to prevent very long delays between jumps for
> > >each athlete.
> > >It works like this:
> > >
> > >You have 26 athletes entered named A-Z. (o=clear, x=miss).
> > >
> > >First five jump at Bar 1.
> > >A - o
> > >B - x
> > >C - o
> > >D - x
> > >E - x
> > >
> > >Next round, same height:
> > >B - o (clear on 2nd)
> > >D - x (2nd miss)
> > >E - o (clear on 2nd)
> > >F - o (first attempt)
> > >G - x (first attempt)
> > >
> > >3rd round
> > >D - x (3rd miss, out of competition)
> > >G - o (clear on 2nd)
> > >H - o (first attempt)
> > >I - x (first attempt)
> > >J - o (first attempt)
> > >
> > >...and so on. When all have cleared or missed the bar, the bar moves to
> > >the next height and the "5-alive" series starts over again.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >"Martin J. Dixon" wrote:
> > >
> > > Below is a posting to the Canadian list early this afternoon. Would any
> > >of you know the answer to the question? "The startlist for the NCAA
> > >women's vault this weekend might be of interest.
> > > Can someone explain the meaning of "5 alive until less than ten remaining"?"
>
>
David Dallman
CERN - SIS
