I think its a travesty that Arkansas is ranked 3rd after they have won 3 straight titles and have brought in Cragg, Silverus Kimeli to replace who's gone. They should start #1 every year and stay there until somebody beats them, they've earned that. Then again, what the heck do polls matter? Or Pre-Nats?
Grote adiRP/MMRD ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 6:08 PM Subject: Re: t-and-f: NCAA Pre-Meet/Furman Invitational > Pre-Nats??? This looks like Nationals minus Arkansas and Wisconsin!!! > > A quick count reveals that only 7 men's and 4 women's teams ranked in the top 25 in the latest polls won't be there. Ranked teams that will be there: > > Men: 1, 2, 5, 8-11, 13-22, 24 > Women: 1-6, 8,9, 11-13, 15-22, 24, 25 > > How much longer before Griak becomes the meet that qualifies you for the Pre-NCAA? :-) > > I think the qualifying system is much more fair than it was before the field was expanded, but at what cost? Many meets now suffer because schools prefer going to Pre-NCAA or Griak. For example: Murray Keating, Wolverine Interregional, Big Cross (Pasco, Wa), Central Collegiates, Paul Short, etc. > > And what about poor schools in the southeast district? They have to run at Furman for Districts as well. So probably half their races are on the same course. > > So is the Pre-NCAA idea a good one? I still think so, but would like to hear what others think. > sideshow > > > In a message dated Tue, 9 Oct 2001 5:21:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > Info from Furman on this Saturday's NCAA Pre-Meet. > > > > Following is some crucial information on the NCAA Pre-Meet/Furman > > Invitational, slated for Saturday, Oct. 13, at the Furman Cross Country > > Course (on the Furman Golf Course). > > > > Schedule of Events > > 8:30 Furman Invitational Junior Varsity Girls 5K > > 9:10 Furman Invitational Junior Varsity Boys 5K > > 9:40 Furman Invitational Varsity Girls 5K > > 10:15 Furman Invitational Varsity Boys 5K > > 10:45 NCAA Pre-Meet Women's Purple 6K > > 11:20 NCAA Pre-Meet Women's Silver 6K > > 11:55 NCAA Pre-Meet Men's Black 8K > > 12:35 NCAA Pre-Meet Men's Gold 8K > > 1:15 Furman Invitational Men's 8K > > 2:00 Furman Invitational Women's 6K > > > > Teams that have been accepted into the NCAA Pre-Meet races will be > > announced Thursday at noon on the Furman website. The address is > > www.furmanpaladins.com. Please click on the NCAA Championships logo, > > scroll down to the results section, and click on the Furman > > Invitational/NCAA Pre-Meet link. There you will find links to the race > > fields for the pre-meet races. There will be two balanced women's pre-meet > > races (purple & silver) and two balanced men's pre-meet races (black & > > gold). All other teams, and all overflow individuals will be put into the > > Furman Invitational races. Each pre-meet race will have 37 teams and NO > > individuals. > > > > COMPLETE Collegiate Fields (Men): Stanford, Washington, Georgia Tech, > > Alabama, Virginia, Washington State, Columbia, Ball State, Texas, ETSU, UNC > > Asheville, Oakland (Mich.), Butler, Northern Iowa, Iowa, Youngstown State, > > Brown, Wake Forest, Marquette, Colorado State, Marshall, Air Force, > > Brevard, Central Michigan, Dartmouth, Wofford, Cornell, Texas Tech, Oregon, > > North Carolina, Kentucky, North Greenville, Samford, Michigan State, > > LaSalle, Guelph, Missouri, Utah, Birmingham Southern, N.C. State, Furman, > > Villanova, Bucknell, Indiana, Life, Bethune Cookman, Colorado, Arizona > > State, BYU, Indiana, Montreat, Elon, Princeton, College of Charleston, > > Belmont, Appalachian State, Western Carolina, Western Kentucky, Radford, > > Queens, Duke, Arizona, Northern Arizona, Cincinnati, Nofolk State, Eastern > > Michigan, New Mexico, Georgia, Florida, Weber State, Notre Dame, Winthrop, > > Davidson, Mercer, Lenoir Rhyne, Miami (Ohio), Clemson, Tennessee, Syracuse, > > Kent State, Toledo, Georgetown, Florida State, St. Francis (Pa), UNC > > Charlotte, Emory, Coastal Carolina, Liberty, Savannah State, Richmond, > > Eastern Illinois, Loyola (Chicago), Tennessee Tech, Ohio State, Creighton, > > The Citadel, UC-Santa Barbara, UCLA, Minnesota, South Florida, Charleston > > Southern, Baylor, Virginia Tech > > > > COMPLETE Collegiate Field (Women): Missouri, Birmingham Southern, N.C. > > State, Mississippi State, Furman, BYU, Villanova, Bucknell, IUPUI, Life, > > Tennessee, Bethune-Cookman, Colorado, Arizona State, College of Charleston, > > Appalachian State, Western Carolina, Minnesota, Western Kentucky, Queens, > > Duke, Arizona, Northern Arizona, Elon, Princeton, New Mexico, Georgia, > > Weber State, Notre Dame, Alabama, Winthrop, Mercer, Pittsburg, Boston > > College, Lenoir-Rhyne, Yale, Stanford, Miami (Ohio), Columbia, Washington, > > Indiana, Georgia Tech, South Alabama, Virginia, Texas, Washington State, > > Columbia, Ball State, ETSU, Northwestern, UNC Asheville, Oakland (Mich.), > > Butler, Northern Iowa, Youngstown State, Brown, Wake Forest, Marquette, > > Colorado State, Cornell, Marshall, Air Force, Dartmouth, Brevard, Campbell, > > Wofford, Texas Tech, North Carolina, Kentucky, North Greenville, Oregon, > > Samford, Michigan State, LaSalle, Guelph, Syracuse, Kent State, Toledo, > > Georgetown, Florida State, St. Francis (Pa.), Boston Univ., Georgia State, > > Norfolk State, UNC Charlotte, Clemson, Radford, Emory, Coastal Carolina, > > Liberty, Richmond, Eastern Ill., Loyola (Chicago), West Virginia, Portland, > > Tennessee Tech, Creighton, UC-Santa Barbara, UCLA, South Florida, > > Charleston Southern, Baylor, South Carolina, Virginia Tech > > > > Results; Will be available on the Furman website (see above), postrace at > > the Athletics Building, and via faxback. Call 201-461-5726 from the > > handset of your fax machine. Document numbers are as follows: j.v. boys > > and girls 2499, high school girls 2491, high school boys 2493, purple > > women's race 2467, silver women's race 2492, black men's race 2466, gold > > men's race 2468, unseeded women's race 2469, unseeded men's race 2490. > > >