Before he made his mark making the first Hannibal movie and coming up with Miami Vice and eventually The Insider, Michael Mann co-wrote and directed the made for TV The Jericho Mile which IMHO was excellent even if just for the music. Watching Peter Strauss run those sub four minute miles to the strains of Sympathy for the Devil could get you out the front door anytime. Regards,
Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Derderian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Edward Koch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 6:40 PM Subject: Re: t-and-f: Track Movies (was Bruce Dern) > I think one can't and shouldn't make movies about running. The drama of > training and racing is it's own theater. One can make movies about plot, > character, and action in a running setting but if one tries to make a movie > to show the viewer how it feels to race, and how it feels to watch a race it > will always fail when compared to the real thing. > Tom Derderian > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Edward Koch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 4:08 AM > Subject: Re: t-and-f: Track Movies (was Bruce Dern) > > > > We had another thread about track/running movies some time back and I > went > > to my latest edition of Leonard Maltin's Movie Guide to check the star > > ratings of the movie's mentioned. Here is what I came up with: > > > > 4 stars: Lonliness of the Long Distance Runner > > Olympia ( re1936 Olympics) > > > > 3.5 Stars: Chariots of Fire > > Gallipoli > > Personal Best > > Million Dollar Legs (W.C.Fields, not Betty Grable) > > > > 3 Stars: Blackbeard's Ghost > > Bob Mathias Story > > Walk, Don't Run (Cary Grant) > > Without Limits > > World's Greatest Athlete > > Yank at Oxford > > > > 2.5 Stars: Billie (Patty Duke as HS runner) > > Jim Thorpe - All American > > Running Brave (re Billy Mills) > > > > 2 Stars: Goldengirl > > On the Edge (Bruce Dern) > > Prefontaine > > Revenge of the Nerds (the Javelin Scene) > > Visions of Eight (re 1972 Olympics) > > > > 1.5 Stars: The Games (screenplay by Eric Segal) > > Meatballs (the race scene) > > Running (Michael Douglas) > > > > Maltin does not give stars to television movies. Instead, he rates them as > > Above Average, Average, or Below Average. He rates The Jesse Owens Story > as > > Above Average. > > > > If anyone has other films, I'll be glad to look their ratings up. > > > > I found it interesting that a critic with no track-orientation (to my > > knowledge) came within a half star of how I would rate most of the above > > that I have seen. I would, however, lower Personal Best a star, and raise > > Visions of Eight a star. I would put Chariots of Fire at the top of the > > list. As for Best Comedy, I'd choose between Million Dollar Legs, Walk, > > Don't Run, and Blackbeard's Ghost. the latter is a typical Disney comedy > but > > I have a soft spot in my heart for any film in which the track coach wins > > the girl over a football coach. > > > > Ed Koch > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Monday, December 17, 2001 9:25 AM > > Subject: t-and-f: Bruce Dern (was Famous people in T&F) > > > > > > > > > >In a message dated 12/16/01 8:35:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > >>Bruce Dern went to college at Penn and may have competed on the track > team > > >>but it was before my time. > > > > > >He did in fact compete and was a good half miler, but quit the team his > jr. > > >year in a dispute w/ the coach (Ken Doherty? - I think the time frame is > > >pre-Tupp, but it's before my time as well) over having to trim his > > sideburns. > > > > > >Incidentally, I recall reading in an interview that his film contracts > > >stipulated that he had to have at least one scene in which he was running > > >(and I think that's true). IMHO, his movie based on the Dipsea (I think > > it's > > >titled "Running Free") is one of the Top 10 running flicks ever, partly > b/c > > >Dern looks so believable as a runner. If you watch it and don't want to > go > > >out for a hard 10 mile trail run, you need to check your pulse. > > > > > >Jim Gerweck > > >Running Times > >
