No worries! :D On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Colin Smale <colin.sm...@xs4all.nl> wrote: > Agreed, we map roads and attributes of those roads. Sorry, I thought you > were suggesting a tag with the meaning "cars have their steering wheels on > the left|right". > > Colin > > > > On 2014-03-21 22:06, Fernando Trebien wrote: > > We only map the roads because we have an interest in using them, > right? Therefore, we also often map how vehicles are supposed to use > these roads. See: access, oneway, maxspeed, surface, tracktype, > smoothness, height, restriction, etc. > > On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 5:54 PM, Colin Smale <colin.sm...@xs4all.nl> wrote: > > Sorry, bad idea. We map the roads, not the vehicles. It is not illegal to > drive a car with the wheel on the "wrong" side - millions of Europeans do it > regularly, both on holiday and because certain models of car are only made > for certain markets. Let's stick to driving_side referring to the side of > the road. By the way, when Samoa changed from driving on the right to > driving on the left a couple of years ago, that was because most of the > vehicles were imported second-hand from Australia and therefore had the > steering wheel on the right anyway... Colin On 2014-03-21 21:24, Fernando > Trebien wrote: I wonder what you mean by "Is there any interest of using it > on countries?". It's been defined for countries, and is used on it, as you > said. You could simply tag the country with "driving_side=right/left" and > use the same (but with the opposite value) on those streets. That said, I > think driving side also implies "driver side" inside the vehicle. Though I > find it very unlikely to see this information in use one day, it's best to > define this meaning early on. A change of driver side requires either a > change of vehicle or some special vehicle that can drive on both sides. In > the case of your city, driving side changes, but driver side doesn't. You > could include that in the description of "opposite". One more thing: this > only makes sense if there is no physical barrier between the opposite > traffic directions. If there is, then it's just a separate way with no > special change in driving side. On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Fernando > Trebien <fernando.treb...@gmail.com> wrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 5:07 PM, > John Packer <john.pack...@gmail.com> wrote: There is a tag documented on the > wiki called driving_side=right/left. According to it's description, this tag > should only be used on countries, and it describes the side of the traffic > in the whole country. So far so good, but according to taginfo it is used > only once on a relation, however there are some uses on some ways, and even > nodes(?). There are, in my city, a couple of streets that have an inverted > driving side. So I am going to extend this tag's documentation to include > ways that have it's driving side opposite to it's country's normal driving > side. Is there any interest of using it on countries? If there is not, I > will exclude the possibility of use on countries from this tag's > documentation. Perhaps, with this new definition, this tag could be > redefined to have only one value: driving_side=opposite (this way, it could > avoid any confusion about it's use) What do you think? > _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- Fernando Trebien +55 (51) 9962-5409 "The speed of computer chips doubles > every 18 months." (Moore's law) "The speed of software halves every 18 > months." (Gates' law) _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >
-- Fernando Trebien +55 (51) 9962-5409 "The speed of computer chips doubles every 18 months." (Moore's law) "The speed of software halves every 18 months." (Gates' law) _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
