I like this proposal, mainly because it drops unfortunate potability implications of amenity=drinking_water.
2014-11-13 9:39 GMT+01:00 Kotya Karapetyan <kotya.li...@gmail.com>: > Mateusz, I agree. A mapper should never introduce, even by implication, > information he doesn't possess. "This water is non-potable" is very > different from "I am not sure you can drink it". This is why I tend to go > for a generic "water source" tag with an additional potability > specification. > > Taking into account everything said, I would propose: > 1) To introduce a key "water_source". > 2) The values will be: potable, nonpotable, yes (or is > "potability_unknown" better?) > 3) Deprecate "amenity=drinking_water" in favour of "water_source=potable" > 4) All other related tags remain as is: > natural=spring > natural=water > amenity=water_point > man_made=water_well > waterway=water_point > and define the type of water source with more detail. > 5) Man_made=water_tap can still be introduced, to accompany > man_made=water_well. However, the main purpose of this proposal is served > by the most general water_source tag. > > I do understand that this goes somewhat out of the existing scheme. > However: > - Can you propose a better solution, not just criticise the proposal > (criticism is very welcome, but please try to bring the discussion closer > to the agreement)? > - I think that the existing situation with the top-level > "amenity=drinking_water" is a rather poor solution, even if widely used. > Once again, please take into account that OSM was originally introduced in > developed countries, thus the established tagging system comes from their > realities. OSM is now gaining popularity in developing countries, and the > tagging system is bound to be dynamic if we don't want to end up with a > very low quality map (with either non-tagged features or with dozens of > custom or wrong tags). Also keep in mind that mappers from developing > countries are not extremely likely to participate in this English-language > discussion. > > Finally, I would advocate the start of discussion to standardize the > tagging system, make it more uniform and thus mapper- and > consumer-friendly. Just keep it in mind please when considering this > specific proposal. > > Cheers, > Kotya > > On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 8:33 AM, Mateusz Konieczny <matkoni...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> "If you can only chose between potable and non-potable" - in this case >> tagging scheme is bad and should be changed to default to unknown value. >> >> 2014-11-12 23:44 GMT+01:00 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: >> >>> On 12/11/2014 8:34 PM, tagging-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: >>> >>> Message: 5 >>> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2014 09:06:15 +0100 >>> From: Pieren <pier...@gmail.com> <pier...@gmail.com> >>> To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" >>> <tagging@openstreetmap.org> <tagging@openstreetmap.org> >>> Subject: Re: [Tagging] Tagging Digest, Vol 62, Issue 31 >>> Message-ID: >>> <capt3zjr3gsqafyxewxvnuyc2n_7tr-git3jpuortmauf2a1...@mail.gmail.com> >>> <capt3zjr3gsqafyxewxvnuyc2n_7tr-git3jpuortmauf2a1...@mail.gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >>> >>> On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 8:50 AM, Mateusz Konieczny <matkoni...@gmail.com> >>> <matkoni...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> > No, unknown should be tagged as unknown. Even better - not tagged. >>> >>> +1 We don't tag what is unknown. Pierre >>> >>> >>> 'We' know there is water there. That water can be used. >>> >>> If you can only chose between potable and non-potable, then you should >>> chose non-potable. Filtering and treating non-potable water makes it >>> potable .. I do this when in remote areas for my safety, particularly if >>> I'm uncertain of the quality of the water. In some cases acess to water can >>> be a life saver - thus it should be mapped no matter what the quality. >>> >>> ================= >>> Note change in Subject title - my appoliges for my error there. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tagging mailing list >>> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tagging mailing list >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > >
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