Hi,

Am 2015-01-18 um 19:02 schrieb fly:
> Additional to below I want to mention that on a micromapping style a
> traffic_signal is placed one the pedistrian crossing or the stop_line. I
> even came across ones one the stop_line and an addition highway=crossing
> on the pedestrian crossing.
> 
> I am tagging direction=* for the direcion it faces.
> 
> Together with the :lanes tagging you do not need any relation at all but
> could simply add the information on the node with :lanes tagging

I agree you. I have described a way to map it without relations using
lane tagging which should exist if you want to have useful traffic
simulations.

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Traffic_Signals#This_tagging_scheme_is_the_total_opposite_of_KISS

I mentioned this proposal at German OSM forum.
http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=29712

Main comments there:
A large number of traffic lights/crossings have no programm. The show
green to the branch streets if a waits there. Otherwise they show red to
the branch streets and green to the main street. There are also traffic
lights in cities which
- show green for a couple of minutes if fire brigades approach to
  "clean the way".
- can have extra-extra programms if a special event changes traffic flow
- have multiple programms (one on the morning rush hour, one for the
  low-traffic periode between 9 and 12 a.m., one afternoon programm,
  one evening rush hour programm, one late-evening programm and a
  Sunday programm)

Best regards

Michael


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