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> On Mar 24, 2015, at 2:48 AM, Friedrich Volkmann <b...@volki.at> wrote: > > On 23.03.2015 15:36, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >>> 2 liters of fuel are as much car_parts as a bakery is bicycle_parts. >> >> The definition says: "A place selling auto parts, auto accessories, motor >> oil, car chemicals, etc." >> >> That fits perfectly. >> >> can you expand? Someone sitting roadside selling just a few liters of >> petrol, how does he comply with this definition? Petrol is not in the list, >> it is neither auto parts nor auto accessories nor motor oil nor car >> chemicals. Are you after the "etc."? > > Petrol is similar to motor oil, both are fluids made from mineral oil. > Diesel is identical with light fuel oil. So this is clearly the same group > of products, especially when sold in equally small quantities. What else is > the "etc." supposed to mean? > Just because they are both made from oil, and sold in similar quantities does not make the amenity or shop similar. This is about people's expectations. A toilet and a drinking fountain both involve fixtures that use water, yet tagged separately. Same with water point, tap, bidet, and other water based amenities - because people's *expectations* of what is present would be broken if I tagged a drinking fountain as a tap or toilet. That's the point of this is discussion. If I saw a car parts icon listed in Africa, and I need to get parts for vehicle ( even a single can of motor oil) - and I went to one of these shops, and there was an old lady selling gasoline for scooters in whiskey bottles out of a window in their house, I'd think the tagger had lost their mind and delete the shop. Similarly - if the tagger tagged this as a gas station, I'd think they are joking. I don't tag granny's roadside vegetable stand as a market nor distribution warehouse - but that is the same thing you are suggesting - but in some places it might be a permanent and expected way for some people to get vegetables - so how do I tag it? Do I pollute market when it is a table with 10 green onions and a few eggplants? They are a farmer, so is it food distribution? Neither works, so a new solution should be found (for this example). Go look at my kerosene tagging example, and tell me what tag you would put on a gas station that doesn't actually sell gasoline or any fuel for cars. Should you like to further dilute petrol station tagging and include those too? If I see a gas pump icon, and thanks to the renders and data users, I would see a gas pump icon in both cases, it would make me very pissed to show up there with a car expecting 50L of gasoline. That's what we're trying to avoid. Javbw > -- > Friedrich K. Volkmann http://www.volki.at/ > Adr.: Davidgasse 76-80/14/10, 1100 Wien, Austria > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging