farm:pick_your_own=yes makes most sense to me. I used the tag for the
second time in the whole database [1]. Is this really all we have of these
things, or are there some other proposititions in use?


[1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/397702013

2016-02-14 2:35 GMT+01:00 Greg Troxel <g...@ir.bbn.com>:

>
> johnw <jo...@mac.com> writes:
>
> > Usually, the farm consists of the orchards, greenhouses, and other
> > areas that are used a farmland year-round, A gift shop that usually is
> > a a roadside stand or small shop (shop=farm) which is open when
> > in-season, but the entire place is usually a singularly named
> > thing. The area where I live is covered with strawberries, tangerines,
> > and apples - and almost all of the rural farms jammed up in the
> > mountains offer this “pick it yourself” service at the farm, usually
> > operated from the gift shop.
>
> We have many of these in the US.   They are first and foremost farms,
> and often sell already picked fruit or flowers, and also let you pick,
> often by selling you an empty bag for a set price.
>
> > How do I tag this kind of farm that is also a seasonal “you-pick”
> > place? The small building that is a shop is easy, but trying to convey
> > that there is a public “you-pick” while in season is very difficult,
> > without making the whole farm seem like it is a shopping mall
> > (landuse=retail seems really wrong).
>
> as you suggest, landuse=retail is wrong.  It's a farm, and farm's also
> sell produce, instead of it being a retail facility that obtains goods
> From others.  And I don't see why pick-your-own would be any different
> From already-picked.  The only real difference there is whether a farm
> worker has put apples in a bag that you can pick up and pay for vs
> paying for an empty bag and a license to fill it from the orchard.  So I
> don't think the pick-your-own notion is very important to the kind of
> place it is, although I understand that it can be important to some map
> users who are looking for the pick-your-own experience for their
> children.  Around me, there are places that are only pick-your-own
> (mostly apples), partially (and varying depending on season and type of
> food) and none.  Except for buying empty bags, they feel similar in most
> other respects.
>
> I think that some sort of farm:pick_your_own=yes tag is in order, as an
> additional tag on the property, or perhaps the farmstand.  It should be
> an annotation, not a replacement of the farm -- it's really just a minor
> variation in how the fruit/flowers/etc. are sold.
>
> Perhaps this would go with a list of food type sold already picked, and
> a PYO list, and for each seasons.  That is getting too complicated; a
> farm:pick_your_own=yes tag seems very helpful compared to the
> complexity, and I'm not sure beyond that.
>
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