On 2017-11-14 19:34, David Marchal wrote: > Hi, Yuri. > > Though I understand your request and find it relevant, I’m unsure > about altering a proposal page after the vote had started; AFAIK, I’m > supposed to let it as is, apart from the vote section. Could you show > me if my assumption is wrong, or can someone on the ML confirm or > infirm that? > > Awaiting your answers, Here is one. I'm rather surprised by this remark. I agree that a proposal which is what other persons "signed" must not be changed. But there are so many undiscussed changes to the wiki*_s_* (even unnotified ones, do you remember that noexit=yes story battle? I'm keeping the most stupid of it yet to be told) that I would praise, not blame, Yuri for his general way of doing. I would suggest to leave the proposal alone, except for mentioning the following, to create a final wiki page and to ask the consent of this list for minor modifications, especially correcting typos.
And here is one correction, with wider justification... If I had voted (I didn't have the occasion, sorry), I would have put as a yes voting condition to change "Give a way to distinguish the different types of sinkholes" with "... of natural=sinkhole <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dsinkhole><https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dsinkhole> (read that article)". The reason is * that foreigners non-English speakers (everyone is a foreigner to most of the world) are liable to ignore what is a sinkhole is, and that it would be a shame to spoil its unusually great description in natural=sinkhole <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dsinkhole> to tell them * that one could believe that sinkhole=* <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/sinkhole> can go without natural=sinkhole <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dsinkhole>. OK, it's explained below but... * that I suppose that many a one quickly read as far as they think they have understood and that any means to make them feel that there is more to it is welcome * that too many wiki articles use insufficient definitions (e.g. source=survey has improved but would need a link to the explanation inside) and * the net result of that is many mapping mistakes (such as the totally useless bicycle=yes) * the most regrettable result is GPS mistakes because routing logic obeys exactly what it's told Cheers André. > Regards. > >> Le 12 nov. 2017 à 21:17, Yuri Astrakhan <yuriastrak...@gmail.com >> <mailto:yuriastrak...@gmail.com>> a écrit : >> >> David, hi, just an thought - could you combine the rationale and >> examples sections? The way you have it now is first you describe >> each concept, and afterwards you have the same concept but with a >> picture. I think it would be better to list each variant with the >> picture right away. >> >> Thanks! >> >> On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 8:30 AM David Marchal <pene...@live.fr >> <mailto:pene...@live.fr>> wrote: >> >> Hello, there. >> >> Almost 3 weeks passed and only 3 people told that they preferred >> karst=yes instead of karstic=yes. As the first one was also the >> one stated as the proposal, and the second one was only mentioned >> in erroneous examples, I assume this relative unanimity is enough >> to confirm karst=yes as the one to use, and will create the wiki >> page accordingly. Thanks to all who voted; the proposal process >> is now fully finished, apart from creating all the Wiki pages. >> >> Regards. >> >> >>> Le 24 oct. 2017 à 19:16, David Marchal <pene...@live.fr >>> <mailto:pene...@live.fr>> a écrit : >>> >>> Hello, there. >>> >>> The vote period passed, and the proposal received a total of 16 >>> approvals, 1 spoilt vote and 0 refusals, so I closed the vote >>> and marked the proposal as approved. Thanks to all the voters; >>> I’ll create the according Wiki pages and edit existing ones to >>> reflect the vote on the following days. >>> >>> As a side note, there is a secondary vote on the proposal page; >>> indeed, some voters noticed an inconsistency in the proposal, >>> ie. a proposal example carried karstic=yes tagging instead of >>> the proposed karst=yes. To make sure of what version the voters >>> approved, I have to ask them to go back on the proposal page and >>> vote, in the dedicated subsection, amongst karstic=yes or >>> karst=yes. Once the choice will have been asserted, I’ll be able >>> to create the corresponding Wiki page. >>> >>> Thanking you for your patience, and awaiting your votes, >>> >>> Regards. >>> >>>> Le 8 oct. 2017 à 09:51, David Marchal <pene...@live.fr >>>> <mailto:pene...@live.fr>> a écrit : >>>> >>>> Hello, there. >>>> >>>> The normal voting duration passed, but there are not enough >>>> votes yet to approve or reject the proposal, so I extend the >>>> voting period by two weeks to allow latecomers to vote. >>>> >>>> Awaiting your votes, >>>> >>>> Reagrds. >>>> >>>>> Le 26 sept. 2017 à 20:26, David Marchal <pene...@live.fr >>>>> <mailto:pene...@live.fr>> a écrit : >>>>> >>>>> Hello, there. >>>>> >>>>> As this proposal has been RFCed more than 2 weeks ago, and >>>>> that comments have been addressed, I’m now putting it on vote. >>>>> Please go on the proposal page >>>>> >>>>> (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Sinkholes_refinement) >>>>> to vote. >>>>> >>>>> Awaiting your votes, >>>>> >>>>> Regards. >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Tagging mailing list >>>>> Tagging@openstreetmap.org <mailto:Tagging@openstreetmap.org> >>>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Tagging mailing list >>>> Tagging@openstreetmap.org <mailto:Tagging@openstreetmap.org> >>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tagging mailing list >>> Tagging@openstreetmap.org <mailto:Tagging@openstreetmap.org> >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tagging mailing list >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org <mailto:Tagging@openstreetmap.org> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tagging mailing list >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org <mailto:Tagging@openstreetmap.org> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
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