I wouldn't call it unmarked; uncontrolled would be more like it. The markings are just a permanent fixture of the surface in this case, kinda like how some American towns use brickwork instead of paint for crosswalks <https://www.google.com/maps/@36.0502967,-95.7908275,3a,60y,37.59h,67.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sqrUqbaaBOlSzhuWAcXJYsQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656> .
On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 2:18 AM, marc marc <marc_marc_...@hotmail.com> wrote: > it look like a pedistrian crossing and a traffic calming > highway=crossing + crossing=unmarked > traffic_calming=table > > if the standard maxspeed for a traffic_calming is not the same > as for a "street exit", the easy think todo is to create a new > traffic_calming value like traffic_calming=street_exit > > > Le 15. 06. 18 à 09:10, Peter Elderson a écrit : > > Speed limit is only implied for the part crossing the sidewalk. The > > street behind it can have different speed limits, usually it is part of > > a "30 Kmph zone", but that is not implied or necessary. > > > > The level of detail: sidewalks and kerbs are not usually mapped. It's > > not realistic to start doing that just for these "exit constructions". > > In fact, the exit may have dropped kerbs, but it might be a fat line or > > double line, a line of different paving, a traffic bump or just that the > > sidewalk paving stops. > > Similar considerations for separate tagging of other details of paving, > > elevation, lining. These are not fixed. The key element is that you > > cross a sidewalk (and/or cycling lane). > > > > Speed signs, give-way signs, shark teeth, stop-lines, bump warnings may > > or may not be present. The idea is that all or most signs can be > > removed: a. You are coming form an exit so slow down and give way! b. > > It's coming from the right but it's an exit so move on! > > > > We're looking for a simple way to indicate what's there without tagging > > all the details and implications separately. > > > > 2018-06-15 8:42 GMT+02:00 <osm.tagg...@thorsten.engler.id.au > > <mailto:osm.tagg...@thorsten.engler.id.au>>: > > > > *From:*Peter Elderson <pelder...@gmail.com > > <mailto:pelder...@gmail.com>> > > *Sent:* Friday, 15 June 2018 16:29 > > *To:* Tag discussion, strategy and related tools > > <tagging@openstreetmap.org <mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org>> > > *Subject:* Re: [Tagging] Street exits____ > > > > __ __ > > > > The street is residential, but the exit is over a sidewalk, with a > > dropped curb. That's the piece I'm talking about: not the street, > > just the exit.____ > > > > __ __ > > > > Rules (legally) implied are that traffic can pass over this > > sidewalk, but has to give way to all sides and all others including > > pedestrians. Speed is limited to 15 Kmph (living_street rules).____ > > > > __ __ > > > > __ __ > > > > Only for that part where it crosses the sidewalk, or for the whole > > street behind it?____ > > > > __ __ > > > > As I’m normally mapping the kerb lines (way along the position of > > the kerb, with barrier=kerb and kerb=raised/lowered/rolled/flush) I > > would in this place have the highway crossing that kerb line, and > > would create an intersecting node (again tagged as barrier=kerb, > > kerb=lowered) (the same as when I’m mapping individual driveways, > > see: https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=21/-27.21152/153.02620 > > <https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=21/-27.21152/153.02620> ). > > But not everyone wants to map to this level of detail.____ > > > > __ __ > > > > Maybe just a single barrier=kerb, kerb=lowered node on the highway > > to indicate that it has to cross the kerb?____ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Tagging mailing list > > Tagging@openstreetmap.org <mailto:Tagging@openstreetmap.org> > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > <https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging> > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Vr gr Peter Elderson > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Tagging mailing list > > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >
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