On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 4:23 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdre...@gmail.com > wrote:
> > > On 10. Aug 2018, at 15:29, Paul Allen <pla16...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > 1) It is said to be standard practice to render what is observable on > the ground. > > > everybody can render what she deems most useful, there is not an absolute > rule to render what is on the ground (e.g. if there is a typo on a sign, > you must not put that into ‘name’ if you know and have confirmed it is a > typo. It could be useful to map the signed name as well, but I wouldn’t use > the key “name” for it, as that is for the name) > You appear to be saying that the name of the street (as on the sign) is not the name of the street (as in the name=* tag applying to the street). This appears to be a post-modernist interpretation of "name." What else would the name=* tag, when applied to a way, be the name of? What is the wording on the street sign except the name of the street? > > I don't need to know which languages are spoken in this region, or what > language(s) the sign is in, that is what the > > sign SAYS and that is what should be mapped (in my opinion). > > thing is, you might want to know in which language the sign is, and there > is currently no way to find out from our data. If you don’t want to know, > you are already served ;-) > A mapper who doesn't speak English or Welsh (but is familiar with the Roman alphabet) could, nonetheless, put the words "Heol Napier Napier Street" into the name=* tag for the way. This is a straightforward mapping (both senses of the word) and matches observable reality. Yes, it would be nice if they also added "name:cy=Heol Napier" and "name:en=Napier Street" but that can come later, if at all. Adding the language tagging is of *secondary* importance, a refinement which is nice but not essential. Yes, the situation is somewhat different when the street has a name but there is no signage and different arguments can be made. And things get really complicated when there is an official name, a local name, but no signage. But when there is a street sign name=* should be used for what is on the sign because anything else is perverse. -- Paul
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