On 8/21/2018 2:27 PM, SelfishSeahorse wrote:

On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 at 19:33, Greg Troxel <g...@lexort.com> wrote:
If it's private, then access=yes is arguably not right, as permission is
granted to the public, vs the public having a right of access.

So I would use

access=permissive

instead of yes.  But this is a far larger issue than this one place; it
arguably applies to all paths on private land (that aren't a public
right-of-way of course) where it's basically ok for the public to go.
You are right, i was wrong. :-) Thanks for correcting me!

access=destination
access:conditional=permissive @ (Oct-Apr 07:00-20:00; May-Sep 07:00-22:30)

Regards
Markus

In this case, I believe (not 100% sure) public access to this area is officially required due to concessions made by the building developer in order to get approval for the project. It's common in NYC for developers to negotiate with the city council and create and maintain public space in return for some exceptions to zoning regulations, etc. The result is something called POPS -- Privately owned public space. The most famous instance of this is Zuccotti Park in Manhattan, which was the home of the "Occupy Wall Street" protests for two months in 2011. It was posited at the time that, because public access to the park was guaranteed 24/7, the protesters could not legally be removed. Of course, they eventually were anyway.

In the case I'm tagging, this is simply an asphalt road used during the construction of the building that the developer has blocked with giant flowerpots and plopped a few benches on, presumably to comply with promises to create public space. Not much of a park. But because it runs between two streets, I think it's important to map it. Obviously they've learned their lesson about guaranteeing 24/7 public access.

J

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