15 Aug 2019, 03:43 by joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com: > For context: yesterday Mateusz Konieczny edited the description of > natural=beach on the Landuse page and commented that "beach is not > always unvegetated and concrete along shore is not a beach", and then > I used his new description on the natural=beach page. > My edit was triggered by https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Landuse&diff=prev&oldid=1889234 <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Landuse&diff=prev&oldid=1889234> edit that claimed that beach is well defined by "Unvegetated strip of land at the edge of water." Main problem with such definition is that strip of concrete/asphalt along shore is not a beach. I thought about dunes when I claimed that "beach is not always unvegetated" but now I see that dunes are not considered as part of the beach. I copied definition from Wikipedia as it seemed far better as it managed to exclude stuff like https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Sea_defences_(21467789266).jpg <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Sea_defences_(21467789266).jpg> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Mole_in_Funchal,_Ponta_do_Garajau,_statue_of_Cristo_Rei_and_Desertas_Islands._Madeira,_Portugal.jpg <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Mole_in_Funchal,_Ponta_do_Garajau,_statue_of_Cristo_Rei_and_Desertas_Islands._Madeira,_Portugal.jpg> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Concrete_defences_by_the_Saxon_Shore_way_-_geograph.org.uk_-_1240179.jpg <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Concrete_defences_by_the_Saxon_Shore_way_-_geograph.org.uk_-_1240179.jpg> Maybe copying previous definition from natural=beach would be preferable. > Re: > "To me it does not have plants growing on it - so unvegetated." > > I agree that beaches generally don't have surface plants like grass - > this can be found in wind-formed sand dunes next to some beaches, > which I would map as natural=sand or natural=dune + surface=grass if > relevant. > > However, there are many beaches shaded by coconut palms and other > spreading or leaning trees here in the rainy tropics - the canopy > would extend out over the high tide water line, so the leaves cover a > significant part of the beach (5 or even 10 meters), and most mappers > put the boundary of natural=wood at the end of the canopy. So I don't > know if mentioning "un-vegetated" in the description is necessary. > So it seems that maybe I managed to improve it, but purely by accident. Overall I am fine also with older definition from natural=beach, page but I strongly oppose defining beaches as "Unvegetated strip of land at the edge of water."
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