+1 for the not: namespace. It stops people inventing new negation tags with slightly different wording. Searches could take it into account even.
On Sat, 14 Sep 2019, 07:25 Joseph Eisenberg, <joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com> wrote: > "noname=yes" is used when a feature like a road doesn't have a name. > > The tag :not:name=XXX" is used when mappers might think that the name > is actually "XXX" but it's not. Usually the "name=" field is already > set with the correct name: 96% of objects with "not:name" have a > "name=*" - see > https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/not%3Aname#combinations > > The tag "not:brand" or "not:brand:wikidata:" tags would be similar, > they would be added so that mappers and database users do not > accidentally think that the amenity=restaurant with name="Phở Hòa" is > the same as other restaurants with brand=Phở Hòa > > I suppose the alternative is using a "note" or "description", but this > tag would be more specific and easier for software to handle, like > https://github.com/osmlab/name-suggestion-index - which helps link > names with brands. > > - Joseph Eisenberg > > On 9/14/19, Francesco Ansanelli <franci...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hello Joseph, > > > > I have to say that I'm not a fan of the tag, IMHO negation is something > > that will make harder to do searches... > > If the burger king is not the food chain keep the brand empty and write a > > note or do a Wikipedia page about it, probably an historical activity > > deserve it. > > > > About the no name, this already exists: > > > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:noname > > > > Can you please point out why adopt the new syntax instead? > > > > Cheers, > > Francesco > > > > Il sab 14 set 2019, 06:43 Joseph Eisenberg <joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com> > ha > > scritto: > > > >> There's a new-ish page about the prefix "not:" > >> > >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:not: > >> > >> It's been used with "not:name" to show that a street isn't named > >> something else (e.g. for streets that had the wrong name on official > >> OS maps in Britain): https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:not:name > >> > >> Also it's been used with "not:addr:postcode" - > >> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/?key=not%3Aaddr%3Apostcode > >> > >> Recently there was a suggestion to use "not:brand" and > >> "not:brand:wikidata" to show that a feature is not part of a chain. > >> https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/6577 > >> > >> For example, this can be used to tag the "Burger King" fast food > >> restaurant in Illinois that's older than the international brand with > >> the same name. This would help database users distinguish between > >> places like this and the usual, popular brand, when doing searches or > >> validating data. > >> > >> Does anyone see a problem with this? > >> > >> What about "not:name"? There's also a discussion about using that tag > >> to check for mistakes, like when new mappers keep changing the name of > >> a feature due to a misspelled or hard-to-read sign: > >> https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/6411 > >> > >> -Joseph > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Tagging mailing list > >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org > >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >
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