>> Are we agreed that something like "Old Route 7" has become a name?
> I'd generally suggest tagging that as noname=yes old_ref=US 7 I find that strange. It's no longer a ref. It won't have a "US 7" sign anywhere on it, because it is not part of "US 7". How would a map renderer label this with a ref "shield", especially if the language is not English? The road system in the USA is not always sensible enough to fit in a box. - Joseph Eisenberg On 1/31/20, Paul Johnson <ba...@ursamundi.org> wrote: > On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 3:15 PM Kevin Kenny <kevin.b.ke...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 2:50 PM Richard Fairhurst <rich...@systemed.net> >> wrote: >> > Honestly, there is, and it's as Paul and I have described - you put the >> ref >> > in the ref tag and leave the name tag blank. This is how it has been in >> OSM >> > since pretty much day one. If a newbie in Europe puts a ref in the name >> tag, >> > it gets stomped on pretty quickly. >> > >> > The reason it might seem otherwise in the States is that the TIGER >> > import >> > didn't populate the ref tag, just the name tag, and a lot of the TIGER >> > import still hasn't been cleared up. So there's a bunch of >> > TIGER-derived >> > roads which have things like "name=County Road 23" (or Township Road, >> > or >> "Co >> > Rd", or many other variations). >> >> OK, I'll add that to the things I look for. As I said, I'd been >> retaining it only when it's the only name, and I never added any new >> ways with that, merely refrained from repairing that case. >> >> It's encouraging that in this particular discussion, that's the only >> detail you guys say I got wrong. 'ref' tag on the way for the >> renderer; road route relation with detailed network and ref; never an >> alt_name or name_1, etc. with a route reference. >> >> Oh, and a further corner case: Are we agreed that something like "Old >> Route 7" has become a name? It's no longer a ref, because Route 7 is >> now elsewhere. It appears on street signs like any other name, not on >> a reference banner, and it's the 'addr:street' of the houses on it. >> > > Eeeh, I'd generally suggest tagging that as noname=yes old_ref=US 7 (if the > old route was a US route) to retain more information. Signing is pretty > similar, too, some places will leave the old shields up and change the > banner from a cardinal to OLD until the signs wear out as a wayfinder for > folks with outdated maps. Much of the midwest, on nameless roads that have > routes, just put something like "SH 33" or "Hwy 412" on the finger signs as > a low-budget solution to posting a proper, potentially multicolor, die-cut, > screen-printed shield and a double-ended arrow as is MUTCD standard for > such a case. addr:street still goes with however the post finds it. It > helps to know the local context quite a bit when trying to sort out how > local authorities cheaped out on posting standard signs. > _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
