Mar 25, 2020, 10:26 by frede...@remote.org: > A while ago we had a longer discussion about Esperanto names; in that > discussion, it was questioned whether Esperanto could be in the name tag > but nobody disputed that adding name:eo tags is ok, even though > Esperanto is an invented (or "constructed") language. > It is actually used as language by some. > Yesterday someone added a few dozen Klingon names to countries in OSM. I > have reverted that because of a copyright issue, but I think we also > need to discuss which languages we want to accept for name:xx tags. > Klingon is actually not used for communication. Some people may "use" it like Sindarin, but it is not "real" use. (hard to define it properly, but I expect that it is a consensus perception of situation) > In my opinion, a name:xx tag should only be added if you can demonstrate > that people natively speaking the living language xx are actually using > this name for this entity. > Makes sense to me. > The country North Macedonia changed its name > almost one year ago, yet roughly half of its ~ 170 name tags are still > what they were before this change. Nobody cares; these names suggest a > data richness that is not backed up by an actual living community that > cares for them. > Note that changing official name of the country does not mean that primary name used by people using other languages changed. I think that it would in case of my language official_name:pl=Macedonia Północna name:pl=Macedonia > What are your opinions on which languages should be accepted in name > tags? What do you think about > > * niche constructed languages (say, FredLang which has 2 words I > invented just now) > Obviously no, I would delete it if spotted (via deleting all name:fredlang tags or whatever else tag was used). > * popular constructed languages (Klingon, Elvish) - note place names in > these languages will often be algorithmically derived from the English > or local name > Obviously no, I would delete it if spotted (via deleting all name:sindarin tags or whatever tag was used). > * "serious" constructed languages (Esperanto) > Yes (?) > * languages that once existed but are not natively spoken any more (Roman) > No (?) > * languages that are natively spoken but their speakers do not have > their own name for the entity in question (instead they use the same > name the locals use, possibly transcribed into a different alphabet) > I would be OK with that. But I know that many are opposed to adding transcribed names.
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