> I propose changing the path page... Disagree. A track is primarily used for agriculture, forestry or related activities.
A path is primarily used by people on foot, on bicycles, or on horseback. While most paths are narrow, because those 3 means of transportation do not require a wide roadway, there are many paths which are 3 to 4 meters wide, where motor vehicles can theoretically access them, but they are not agricultural or forestry tracks, but are designed and used as multi-use paths. Consider that the average sidewalk is 3 meters wide in most developed cities, which is plenty wide to drive a small car down it. That is not a highway=track, its a sidewalk. Most paths and footways in urban parks are more than 2 meters wide. They are not tracks. – Joseph Eisenberg On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 12:55 PM brad <bradha...@fastmail.com> wrote: > It already says this: > "Some highway <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway>=track are > used for various leisure activities - hiking, cycling, or as jeep/ATV > trails. " > on the track wiki. > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dtrack > > I propose changing the path page from this: > "If a path is wide enough for 4-wheel-vehicles (wider than 2 m), and it is > not legally signposted or otherwise only allowed for pedestrians, cyclists > or horseriders, it is often better tagged as a highway > <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway>=track > <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dtrack> or highway > <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway>=service > <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dservice>. " > > to this: > "If a path is wide enough for 4-wheel-vehicles (wider than 2 m), it is > often better tagged as a highway > <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway>=track > <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dtrack> or highway > <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway>=service > <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dservice>. " > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dpath > > To clarify, we could change the track page from this: > "This tag <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag> represents roads for > mostly agricultural use, forest tracks etc.; often unpaved (unsealed) but > may apply to paved tracks as well, that are suitable for *two*-track > vehicles, such as tractors or jeeps." > to this: > "This tag <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag> represents roads for > agricultural use, forest tracks, *recreation*, etc.; often unpaved > (unsealed) but may apply to paved tracks as well, that are suitable for > *two*-track vehicles, such as tractors or jeeps. " > > On 6/9/20 11:52 AM, Mike Thompson wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 8:43 AM Andrew Harvey <andrew.harv...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > If the way is used by "law enforcement, emergency, and maintenance > staff" motor vehicles then I'd tag it highway=track and if it's designated > for walking then foot=designated + motor_vehicle=private, since it's wide > enough and occasionally used by vehicles, even for a path that is mostly > used for walking. > This is just the opposite advice I got on this list about a similar > situation a couple of weeks ago. As a community we need to have some > consistency. There is another user (other than I or cosmocatalano) who is > going around making the exact opposite changes as cosmocatalano. If the > community agrees with you and cosmocatalano, I will map accordingly and > make changes in my local area along those lines, but I don't want to have > the same conversation here two weeks from now. > > > you'd need to still indicate it's usable by motor vehicle > width=<some value greater than ~1 meter> + > smoothness=very_bad/bad/intermediate/good/excellent > > > > > On Wed, 10 Jun 2020 at 00:32, Mike Thompson <miketh...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I know we have had this discussion before, but perhaps some of you that >>> are more elegant (and diplomatic) can comment on: >>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/85034574 >>> >>> >>> These ways exist only to provide recreation to those on foot, bicycle or >>> horseback. One will occasionally see a park maintenance vehicle, such as a >>> side by side ATV (I don't think one could even get a regular four wheeled >>> vehicle back there.), but the public is not allowed to operate motor >>> vehicles on these ways. >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tagging mailing list >>> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tagging mailing list >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing > listTagging@openstreetmap.orghttps://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >
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