On Wed, 1 Jul 2020 at 13:54, bkil <bkil.hu...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > It would need guidance in the wiki as to where the line is between a > > coffeehouse (or whatever we call it) and a cafe that isn't a coffeehouse. > > Yes, that should be a good idea before someone submits a grand > unification proposal. >
We need rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty. > Shop=pastry? > > > > Unfortunately we can't use that tag, as the menu of a cukrászda far > exceeds the definition of what the word "pastry" implies. They usually > offer many items from the following categories: > * cakes > * cookies > * custards > * doughnuts > * frozen desserts > * puddings > * scones > * sugar confections > * sweet pastries > * sweet pies > What you list is a mix of (to use the technical terms) baker's confectionery and sugar confectionery. What a shame we don't have a word that combines both types of item. Actually, we not only have such a word, we have the corresponding tag: shop=confectionery. However, the wiki contradicts itself. The first paragraph includes cakes and croissants as items it sells. The second paragraph says that shops selling cakes should be shop=pastry. Also, I don't know about the UK in general, but I can only remember seeing "confectionery" applied to sweet shops that want to appear up-market. Wiktionary agrees with me. Wikipedia doesn't. -- Paul
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