For me both schemes would be fine. I have no problem using "lower", "upper" and "mid" even if the upper station is lower than some mid stations. The definition from the wiki will then still explain how to tag it and it's a rare case where the mapper probably will look for the definition in the wiki. And your improvement regarding the defition itself is absolutely correct. There's no need to state the fact that it's the opposite end. So I'll give it a new try:

Definition:

    aerialway:station=lower

for the station at the end of the aerialway with the lower altitude,

    aerialway:station=upper

for the station at the end of the aerialway with the higher altitude,

    aerialway:station=mid

for any station not being at the end of and aerialway.


Anyone who wants to improve or oppose to this definition?

Cheers
dktue


Am 15.08.2020 um 13:57 schrieb Colin Smale:

Yes, I object to the specific values, as I (and others) said earlier. The use of "base" and "head" is not intuitive and will lead to confusion and errors amongst non-fluent English speakers. More basic words like "top" and "bottom", or maybe "upper" and "lower", are preferable.

You can/should remove the word "opposite" from the definition; this will make it completely independent of the other definitions.

On 2020-08-15 13:44, dktue wrote:

To make in unambiguous, the definition would then be:

    aerialway:station=base

for the station at an end of the aerialway with the lower altitude,

    aerialway:station=head

for the station at the opposite end of the aerialway (hence with a higher altitude) and

    aerialway:station=mid

for any station not being at the end of and aerialway regardless of the altitude.


Anyone who wants to improve or oppose to this definition?

Cheers
dktue

Am 15.08.2020 um 13:37 schrieb Werner.Haag@leitstelle.tirol:

Hi,

it was mentioned, we have many aerialways in Tyrol and there are really cases where the mid station is the one with the highest altitude. I found an example ("Schindlergratbahn", base 2035 m, mid 2643 m , head 2579 m, see link ). So i think, the second scheme with  base, mid, head could
be the better scheme.
_https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/23103020_

Werner


"Yves" <y...@mailbox.org> schrieb am 14.08.2020 18:07:53:

> Von: "Yves" <y...@mailbox.org>
> An: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools"
> <tagging@openstreetmap.org>, "Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging"
> <tagging@openstreetmap.org>
> Kopie: "Tagging" <tagging@openstreetmap.org>
> Datum: 14.08.2020 18:09
> Betreff: Re: [Tagging] Antwort: Re: Aerialway stations
> > I'm not a natural speaker, head like in where the aerialway is heading.
> I propose the second scheme because of the duplicate meaning with
> ele in the definition, and because the aim of an aerialway could be
> lower than mid.
> Yves

> Le 14 août 2020 17:32:08 GMT+02:00, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
> <tagging@openstreetmap.org> a écrit :
> I strongly prefer up/top over head.
> > At least for me (not representative,
> not a native speaker), head = up
> is not clear.
> > 14 Aug 2020, 17:05 by em...@daniel-korn.de:
> Am 14.08.2020 um 16:37 schrieb yvecai:
> > I would propose, if you want to use altitude as a definition:
> bottom: the end station with the lower altitude
> up: the end station with the higher altitude
> mid: any station, not being a base or a head station, irrespective
> of the altitude
> Or, alternatively one that does not compete with the ele tag and
> carry a destination meaning (my preference):
> base: the 'valley' station, usually with the lower altitude
> head: the 'mountain' or 'top' station, usually with the higher altitude
> mid: any station, not being a base or a head station.
> > aewrialway:station has my preference
> Yves
> I like both. Any other people here with a peference for one of Yves' schemes?
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