Aug 22, 2020, 12:17 by f...@zz.de: > On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 12:09:14PM +0200, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: > >> I would expect roundabout to be split in parts where >> ref is applying and parts where it is not applying, in other words >> without any special handling and tag it as usual. >> > > But the point is that on a roundabout the "name" references the name > of the _roundabout_ not one of the streets connected to it. > Yes > Same should apply to ref as it will reference the Roundabout > why? > e.g. > otherwise there would be no way to e.g. say tag a roundabout > with "East 1" or "No 1" because the Ref is taken by one or all > of the streets. > So it is about case where road has its own reference number and junction has its own reference number, separate from reference number of road routes? > Adding all refs of all streets PLUS that of the roundabout would > make it even worse as you couldnt distinguish which of the refs > references the Roundabout and which of the refs is that of the streets. > > So i simply say when the logic is that the way with > "junction=roundabout" is not part of the streets and has a life of > its own with e.g. established with the name tag - same should and must > apply to the ref. This does not prohibit adding the roundabout to some > kind of relation containing all parts of a road in a road network. > In Poland road route continues through roaundabout and roaundabout way is part of such route. See https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2343885#map=19/50.08485/19.80751 (here parts of roundabout may be argued to not belong into 774 relation, but...) https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2313869#map=16/50.0861/20.0234 https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/37828106 https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/148978816 (may not be roundabout strictly speaking, but it is not changing anything important) https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2313869#map=19/50.07961/20.02769 (roundabout plan but with traffic signs)
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