On 10/19/20 15:01, Justin Tracey wrote: > I don't feel particularly strongly about this change either way, but > to say it has "zero actual benefit" seems like a pretty obvious > exaggeration.
How about naming the benefits this has, from your point of view, then? It's a lot of work to change all 4 million of these tags, and we lose the last edited date when we do this (i.e. if something hasn't been touched for 5 years, and we make this frivolous change from man_made=* to human_made=*, the object then shows as last edited that day, not 5 years ago). > A lot of this thread has been on the ramifications on the database, on > data consumers, and on people being offended or misinformed, but these > seem to be missing the point changes like this are supposed to have. The > reason changes like this are useful is they serve as cultural markers > for community openness and understanding. I'm not even sure what you are trying to say here. > Now, whether the impact this specific tag has is of sufficient > weight to accept the costs others have mentioned (most notable IMHO > being the impact on current data consumers), well that's the > discussion we should be having. But hyperbole like "[this] makes zero > sense > and smacks of change for the sake of change" is not a helpful> part of that discussion. Maybe it's not helpful to you. But I would like to think that the opinion of someone who has contributed to the project for eight years actually counts for something. I'll repeat it: Making this change will destroy data on 4 million objects for zero actual benefit, and for a primary reason that make zero sense besides change for the sake of change. It should not be made for at least these reasons, if not others as well. In fact, looking at it again, the more I think this is likely a frivolous or joke proposal, and should not even go as far as a vote. Something tells me if this was a tag like highway=* we were talking about, we wouldn't even be having this discussion. -- Shawn K. Quinn <skqu...@rushpost.com> http://www.rantroulette.com http://www.skqrecordquest.com _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
