I am confused on what the tag electricity= is intended for. You say in the first of the two proposals: " The parent key electricity <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:electricity> would be used to tag the availabilty and source of electricity, i.e. whether a building or amenity has electricity. The availability of this electricity to the public, either for free or for a fee, would be determined by the typical access <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access> and fee <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:fee> tags."
So let's go to the practical side: My home is an average single family house in an average city in an average country in Europe. As for 99.9% of the buildings in this country it is connected to the (national) electricity grid, hence electricity=grid. But I do not sell electricity to the public, and I do not offer a free electricity supply to the public, hence it would be electricity:access=private So we will start a major campaign to add the two tags to 99.9% of the buildings in my country? This cannot be done automatically, as there are the odd (for the time being) buildings that are autonomous with, for example, solar + battery.and other odd arrangements. I am sure that you have thought of that and the intention is to put the electricity= tag only on some categories of buildings in those areas of the world where it is normal to be connected to the grid, but which? Going on from there, what about other services like drinking water, sewage, surface water drainage, television antennas, Internet connection, postal delivery services, garbage collection, and so on? I have to confess, I only have questions, but no answers. Volker On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 at 13:47, Lukas Richert <lrich...@posteo.de> wrote: > Since a lot of people apparently didnt see the RFC the first time, I'll go > back to RFC status for now. (I thought the threads were sorted by subject > title of the email and didnt check online if it was actually visible. ) > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The original message: > > Hello all, > > after the comments on the confusing nature of the word 'source' in my > original proposal of 'electricity:source', I have now changed the name to > 'electricity:origin' as suggested on the discussion page. Furthermore, I > would like to revive and extend the proposal of the key 'electricity' as > this previously conflicted with parts of the electricity:source proposal > and was not consistent. > > Both proposal pages: > > [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/electricity > > [2] > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/electricity:source > > The idea now is to allow for the tagging of buildings or amenities that > have electricity. The rationale is described in more detail at [1]. Tags > such as access, fee, schedule and origin can then narrow down the > availability to the public and the question of financial or direct origin > of the electricity. > > This is distinct from the drafted tag power_supply as it is used to > describe the type of sockets used at a specific outlet. The values for that > tag are still currently under discussion. > > I would also not tag this as a subset of power=* as this maps the > facilities and features that relate to the generation and distribution of > electrical power and should not be used to map the consumers of electricity. > > > I am eager to hear the feedback to the revised proposals! > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Also, perhaps relevant: both the power_supply > <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:power_supply> and socket > <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:socket> keys describe the same > feature. power_supply so far has occasionally been used in the manner that > electricity proposes to be. Unfortunately, the proposal for power_supply is > relatively inconsistent. I think the socket:* tag is better thought out and > also currently more used. I would be in favor of deprecating power_supply > and separating the two meanings it currently has into electricity=* and > socket:*=#. > > Regards, > > Lukas > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >
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