Given the number exposed here by Martin, and the fact that there is a few 
established data consumers, I think that preserving the pump tag as it is now 
and refine it with another tag would be a good idea indeed.
Yves 

Le 22 novembre 2020 02:58:07 GMT+01:00, Martin Koppenhoefer 
<dieterdre...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>
>
>sent from a phone
>
>> On 22. Nov 2020, at 02:32, François Lacombe <fl.infosrese...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> It's true proposed tagging deprecates the current pump=* definition 
>> according to rationale and wishes to use the pump word in a more appropriate 
>> way.
>
>
>this would deprecate around 20k pump values describing a pump type, plus 15k 
>yes/no.
>
>Looking at the no-values, 23% are not in combination with man_made 
>https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/pump=no#combinations
>i.e. this is also used on other objects to state buildings there is no pump.
>I would also suggest you modify your proposal in a way that it is compatible 
>with the current use of the pump tag
>
>Cheers Martin 
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