I agree that the indoor or semi-indoor inclined elevators, which are fully enclosed and look completely similar to a vertical elevator, should be tagged as highway=elevator.
Once they are outdoors and there are visible tracks it gets ambiguous. Since the Montmarte "funicular" is tagged as railway=funicular even though the pairs cars are now no longer connected to one cable, I think we can edit the Tag:railway=funicular page to mention that the tag is also used for similar cable-driven inclined railways which are not technically funiculars, but looks the same to the non-expert. -- Joseph Eisenberg On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 3:30 PM Guillaume Chauvat <[email protected]> wrote: > Sorry for spamming. > > I also think it's fine if the Montmarte funicular is tagged as a > funicular. But I'm asking because of things that are clearly elevators, > like this one: > https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-tekniska-hgskolan-metro-station-stermalm-district-stockholm-sweden-41948022.html > . It goes on a path parallel to the escalators, not vertically (I have been > inside). To me it looks very wrong to call this a funicular. But maybe > others disagree... > > Guillaume > > On 2020-12-05 00:07, Clay Smalley wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 5:00 PM Joseph Eisenberg <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> The wiki page text says that a railway=funicular is "A funicular, also >> known as an inclined plane or cliff railway, is a cable railway in which a >> cable attached to a pair of tram-like vehicles on rails moves them up and >> down a steep slope, the ascending and descending vehicles counterbalancing >> each other.” >> >> However, the description in the infobox (which is much more commonly seen >> in places like taginfo and iD) is only “Cable driven inclined railway” - >> and this could include many types of "inclined elevators” which mostly run >> on rails too. So mappers might be using railway=funicular for inclined >> elevators already. >> > > Indeed they are. For example, here's the Montmartre Funicular in Paris, > which was historically a true funicular but is now technically a pair of > inclined elevators: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/29403578 > > The distinction between a funicular and an inclined elevator is to me a > technical one. Many inclined elevators, like the previous example, are > named as funiculars, and passengers may not even notice that they are on > one or the other - for all they know, they're just on a vehicle going up > and down steeply sloped rails. > > I'm in favor of tagging inclined elevators as funiculars whenever they may > resemble one. Perhaps an additional tag like > railway:funicular=inclined_elevator could be invented for those interested > in the technical details on how the steep-slope-railway-thing works. > > -Clay > >> > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing > [email protected]https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >
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