Noted.

I was [over]reacting to the section from OP about return periods.

If this proposal is specifically about areas of historical flooding rather
than areas deemed at risk of flooding then they *can* be observed
on-the-ground.

On Fri, 16 Jun 2023, 01:08 Andy Townsend, <ajt1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 15/06/2023 20:47, Jez Nicholson wrote:
>
> Whilst it is a great idea to capture local knowledge about flooding,
> especially where it is currently not available, I am concerned that this
> doesn't have on-the-ground verification.
>
> I don't think that anyone has suggested that - at least not in this
> thread?
>
> The original email said "The location and extent of these hazard areas is
> often well known by local communities with knowledge of past events."
>
> When I talked about "what is currently flooded based on current measured
> level and previous observations" I meant exactly that - recording that
> when a river level at a known point reads X, land at Y (in the vicinity of
> X) will also be flooded.
>
>
> Flood risk areas are predictions generated via modelling software and it
> depends on which software you use, and the quality of the input data.
>
> Indeed - the Environment Agency in the UK (and other agencies elsewhere)
> make extensive use of this sort of model, but I suspect that mapping this
> sort of thing goes  bit beyond what can usefully done within OSM, though of
> course it can be combined with OSM data by a data consumer to create "risk
> maps".
>
>
> The current hazardous areas get away with it by mapping areas marked out
> by signage. Sure, the signs may have been placed following predictions, but
> they are physically there to be seen.
>
> I suspect that this isn't true for all "boundary=hazard" in OSM at the
> moment (picking one at random, the signage for
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/500428513 and the wider
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/15680620 doesn't look especially
> extensive - see
> https://www.abc.net.au/radio/programs/australia-wide/australia-wide/13490888#:~:text=Wittenoom%20is%20the%20largest%20contaminated,site%20in%20Western%20Australia%27s%20Pilbara.
> )
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Andy
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