> what name should a global datause for an object without name=* ?

I take the proposal to mean that the database itself doesn't *need* to
choose a name. Name choices are for renderers, which can be opinionated,
but that the database itself can be neutral if we simply include the names
in multiple languages and leave it at that. I think that's a good idea and
an important evolution of tagging names that matches how the community
expects other features of the database to behave (e.g. don't tag for the
renderer).

If your question was about a "global data user" and not a "global
database", I think my point still applies - having the database make the
decision for data users is a worse result in my mind than making data users
at least decide they're choosing a single language, or pick and choose by
region. They can also do what OpenStreetmap Americana does and let map
users choose the language they want rendered, though that's only one
approach to the problem (one I happen to like).

-Nick



On Sun, Jul 30, 2023 at 10:47 AM Marc_marc <marc_m...@mailo.com> wrote:

> Le 30.07.23 à 18:52, Brian M. Sperlongano a écrit :
> > On Sun, Jul 30, 2023 at 12:08 PM Marc_marc <marc_m...@mailo.com
> > <mailto:marc_m...@mailo.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     did we need to have this thread again and again ?
> >
> > What do you believe should go into the name tag of the bodies of water
> > known in French as océan Atlantique or the body of water known
> > as Itämeri in Finnish?
>
> my personal preference is to have a name=* in a neutral language
> such as esperanto
>
> currently it's often English that's used for that, and I find that
> much worse than making no choice at all, as you suggest
> because many datause will have to make a choice
>
> as you can see on https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/305640306/history
> adding nome=* doesn't solve the publishing wars
>
> I'll return the question to you: what name should a global datause
> for an object without name=* ?
> and does your proposal to "add" a noname=multi_langual hide a "deleting
> the names I disapprove of is nomore a vandalism but approved" ?
> because I have no isue to add a tag to express that name=* is
> multilingual (exept that the tag already exist and isn't a noname=")
> but that doesn't mean "the rule for name=" changed"
>
> Regards,
> Marc
>
>
>
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