Think about emergency doors, emergency steps and emergency paths
leading to them all along motorways. Sounds a bit exhaustive to create
a new emergency value for each one. An access restriction sounds more
reasonable.

On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 2:33 PM Anne-Karoline Distel <annekadis...@web.de> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> in my endeavour to improve the mapping and tagging along waterways, I noticed 
> that there is no approved or documented tag for ladders along shorelines. 
> There is ladder=yes (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ladder), but it 
> seems to be meant for hiking paths and is only rendered on lines. I mapped a 
> few ladder=yes along river shores on OSMAnd, only to discover that I need to 
> add the quay wall to have them rendered which is a lot of extra effort, and 
> cannot be done casually using OSMAnd.
>
> After talking to someone who canoes, they tell me that many of the ones I had 
> mapped along the retaining wall in the town where I live are actually for 
> emergencies, when people fall into the river. They're not meant to be used by 
> swimmers, i.e. they're not actually accessible from the shore with a gate in 
> the fence. Then I'm thinking, should it be emergency=ladder? But what if one 
> isn't sure if they are for boating people or only for emergency situations? 
> So I'm now mapping them as man_made=ladder (and add ladder=yes, so they get 
> rendered), as other people have done in harbour or river situations before 
> me, but only very infrequently.
>
> 30 are mapped as ladder for scuba diving 
> (https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/scuba_diving%3Aentry%3Aladder#overview),
>  but the average person might not know, if there is no signage. I think a 
> simpler way would be to just use man_made=ladder and add the sport or the 
> emergency tag to the best of ones knowledge.
>
> Anne
>
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