Hi Joe

Sounds interesting.

Have you seen the Maverick project, this seems to be along similar lines,
using XSLT pipelining and building a simple MVC framework around XSLT.

http://mav.sourceforge.net

There's also XTags which has tags for working with XSLT and XPath.

http://jakarta.apache.org/taglibs/doc/xtags-doc/intro.html

Maybe the best way forward is for you to put some more concrete
documentation or examples on some website somewhere and we can take it from
there.

James
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Maisel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 10:14 PM
Subject: new tags


> Hi...
>
> I've just joined the mailing list, so I apologize if I'm either posting to
> the wrong place, or in the wrong way, etc.
>
> I have _alot_ of servlet/jsp/taglib code I've written and been
experimenting
> with for about the past year.  I'm hoping to roll into an existing
project.
> Basically, I have developed an API which allows for total segregation of a
> view from a controller.  The API is currently very simple and powerful,
and
> best used as a tag, but was initially developed to run in a servlet
> framework which I'm currently reworking (I made it _way_ too complicated
the
> first time).  It has many applications besides just doing html for a
> browser, such as providing a neutral form for data to be wrapped in, which
> can then be delivered to views returning text/plain, html, xml, wml, etc.
> While I understand that tag libs are an implementation of the mvc design
> pattern and conceptually very similar to this, I have found them in their
> current state to be less than they could be, so I have wrapped my API in a
> tag and xml namespace to fill the things I feel are gaps.  It eliminates
the
> need for coding any java in a jsp, but still gives the advantages of rapid
> development which make jsp a good thing.  Also it is (IMHO) a siginificant
> workflow improvement over the way tag libs seem to work (at least at my
> company, although I'm happy to admit that the tag lib implementation here
> kinda sucks).  What I've ended up with is a component based xml, xslt
system
> I call "buffered xslt".  It allows for the advantages of using xslt at
> runtime, but buffers the document produced in the transformation, greatly
> improving performance and server load.  Basically, docs produced from a
> transformation are parsed and internally use any of the 5 tags defined in
my
> namespace which control how values are rendered.  So, really the output
from
> an xslt becomes a 'component template'.  I guess it sounds confusing, but
I
> have a fair amount of documentation, and it's actually quite easy to use.
> 8)  Controllers can be shared between servlets and tags, and it is true
> componentized development.  I think there are alot of good concepts in
this
> work, and I'm hoping to have something good come of it.  It's been my pet
> passion for the past 12 months...  So, I guess I'm wondering if anyone out
> there is interested, and if anyone can give me a heads up on how I can
> submit the work to the Apache foundation for someone to look at.  8)  I
> suppose if I had to summarize it easily it would be a mix of the xslt tag,
> the input tag, and perhaps struts.  I'm just hoping someone will give it a
> go, because I know it's quite cool (not that I'm biased or anything).....
>
> 8)
>
> Thanks for your time,
>
> Joe Maisel
>


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