On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 11:18 AM, <leos...@i2pmail.org> wrote: > Sur 2016-05-13 14:19 UTC sajolida <sajol...@pimienta.org> écrit: >> >> leos...@i2pmail.org: >> > Sur 2016-05-09 23:05 UTC sajolida <sajol...@pimienta.org> écrit: >> >> intrigeri: >> >>> leos...@i2pmail.org wrote (08 May 2016 20:42:18 GMT) : >> >>>> 2/ The install procedure with 2 usb keys isn't the best way. It's more >> >>>> easy to burn >> >>>> a iso image on a dvd, then install Tails from a dvd to an usb key. >> >>> >> >>> I'll let the people who are working on our installation process reply >> >>> in more depth if they wish, but nowadays it seems that it's way >> >>> easier, for many people, to get 2 USB sticks than a DVD burner. >> >> >> >> Right, that's what we had in mind even though I agree with you that the >> >> procedure with 2 USB sticks might not be the fastest for everybody. >> >> >> >> A few more thoughts on the topic: >> >> >> >> - For Mac we documented both options: install the intermediary Tails on >> >> USB or DVD. Here we *had* to integrate DVD in the flow for everybody >> >> because Macs are a nightmare and have very different support for USB >> >> stick. But the result is much more complex for the user. >> >> >> >> - For Linux, the technique with GNOME Disks is quite nice and is >> >> available out-of-the-box for the major distros with their default >> >> environment (Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora). But you're right, here we're >> >> taking for granted that it's easier to have 2 USB stick handy than a DVD >> >> burner and a blank DVD. We thought this was a reasonable assumption in >> >> 2015. >> >> >> >> - For Windows, the technique that we document, using UUI, is a bit >> >> awkward but has the advantage of working independently of the Windows >> >> version (I'm not sure whether DVD burning tools exists in Windows from >> >> XP to 10) and of whether people have a DVD burner or not (this is >> >> becoming less and less common on laptops). We thought it would be better >> >> to recommend a single technique than to open multiple paths depending on >> >> the Windows version and hardware. It was also much less work for us. >> >> >> >> This said, on each /install/{linux,win,debian} we have a secondary >> >> option for "Burning Tails on a DVD". Now I'm realizing that maybe we >> >> should add a note at the end of https://tails.boum.org/install/dvd/ to >> >> make it clear to people that they can then clone this Tails on a USB >> >> stick. >> >> >> > I thank you for your answer sajolida. I understand that is easiest for >> > many people to use two usb keys. I run fedora, I used the technique with >> > GNOME Disks, but the first usb keys (intermediate Tails) has never start ! >> >> Then that's a different (and interesting!) problem. So far on >> https://tails.boum.org/support/known_issues I see only one PC (Lenovo >> IdeaPad Y410p) that is known to fail starting from a USB stick created >> using GNOME Disks. So, in your case, unless you have a Lenovo IdeaPad >> Y410p, either: >> >> - Something failed while creating the intermediary USB stick and it >> would be interesting to try again and see what might have failed (maybe >> there's something we should adjust in our instructions). >> >> - Maybe your laptop really can't start from such a USB stick and this >> should be listed as a known issue. >> >> So if you feel like it, it would be quite interesting if you could try >> again to create an intermediary Tails using GNOME Disks, start from it, >> and report your findings to tails-b...@boum.org as instructed here: >> >> https://tails.boum.org/doc/first_steps/bug_reporting/tails_does_not_start/ >> >> We writing to tails-b...@boum.org point them to this thread: >> >> https://mailman.boum.org/pipermail/tails-dev/2016-May/010628.html > > Hi sajolida, > I try again to create an intermediary Tails using Gnome Disk. I have 2 Dell > computers: > The first one is a Vostro 1510, the intermediary Tails usb keys doesn't boot, > the bios message is: "Missing Operating System"; > the second one is an Inspiron 3847,I insert intermediary Tails usb key, but > no message and Fedora 22 boot. > The final Tails installed from a DVD to an usb key boots and works fine on > the both. >>I hope to help you... > > Also, I would like the next version of Tails is delivered with "proxychains". > Thank you.
As intrigeri asked previously, can you please provide a practical example of why it would be useful or needed? I.e., what doesn't work now that would work if proxychains were installed? -- -Austin _______________________________________________ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.