I was looking in the acer  coummunity web ste and it seems many people were 
having difficulty
with the BIOS so since acer were not responsive a suggestion to downgrade was 
made so this was done following a howto and now
tails works fine.
 
i did try to creste a persistance volume but have not come to grips with it at 
the moment as the message i get is
tails did not creste /dev/sdb.
 
thanks to all who offered support
 
tim

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