I'd say that we map what we can confirm "on the ground". The inclusion of non-existent features in OSM is of no help to anyone. In rural areas, there are whole villages in which plans were approved and gazetted but never constructed or, having once existed, have disappeared as the population disappeared - google maps occasionally includes some of these streets but we shouldn't.
On Sat, 1 May 2021, at 9:09 AM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Partially carrying on from my question the other day about houses going > between two streets, how do we map streets that physically aren't there > any more, but officially are? > > On the Gold Coast, parts of a couple of streets facing the beach were > washed away by cyclone-caused erosion many years ago (1960s), & were > never re-built. > > However, Council still has them listed as gazetted road reserves, even > though the only thing now existing is a footpath (if that!), & there > are houses that are numbered as being on those streets. > > Now that I've confused you all nicely :-), here are some pictures that > will hopefully help! > > Sorry, I wasn't able to include the actual image as it's too big, but > please open this file & have a look! > image.png > <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lWm0aE_cuozJ2wcQaCUyh4p1rM_0yHE9/view?usp=drive_web> > > You can see that the street name on the grass says "Esplanade", & the > address of the place that is outlined in blue is 478 The Esplanade, > Palm Beach. Its (& the 4 other houses adjoining) only vehicle access is > via a driveway in from the Gold Coast Hwy to the west. One of the > remaining physical portions of The Esplanade is also visible just to > the south, where it stops, & becomes a grass footpath heading north, > past the front of these blocks. > > Some street view images of this spot: > > https://goo.gl/maps/trRhaj4XXQssddMK8 > > & looking back from the other way (clearly showing that there is no > vehicle access from The Esplanade): > > https://goo.gl/maps/kYHNLCsDFgEuYg3R6 > > How it currently appears in OSM: > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/-28.10353/153.46432 > > So, what do we do with the non-existent street? > > There's mention on the Oz Guidelines, which suggests leaving it tagged > as a highway=residential, but with no vehicle access? > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines#How_do_I_map_a_road_that_ISN.27T_there > > Alternatively I could mark the existing path (actually tagged as a > bridleway) with either razed or removed highway=residential, but would > I then add the street name as well? > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:razed: > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:removed: > > They could work when there is something there to tag, but in a > different location the same thing occurs with a missing road but there > isn't even a footpath in that area, just grass between the houses & the > beach, but it's still a named, gazetted road, with houses numbered off > that road? > > Suggestions? > > Thanks > > Graeme > _______________________________________________ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org <mailto:Talk-au%40openstreetmap.org> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > _______________________________________________ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
