On Jun 17, 2021, at 2:14 AM, Andrew Harvey via Talk-au 
<talk-au@openstreetmap.org> wrote:
>> It's a fair point that Vicmap's own postcode field shouldn't be taken as 
>> 100% correct, it looks like it might have been assigned based on postcode 
>> boundaries so might still suffer issues because of this, but where 
>> addr:postcode is not already mapped, most of the time the Vicmap one will be 
>> correct.

To be clear, I'm 100% OK with postcodes on nodes with addresses, such things 
belong together (as that tag on that node):  it is indeed "the correct way to 
go."  (IMHO).

I'm not terribly excited (dejected) to see a suggestion that ABS' described 
"imprecise process" (of conflating postcodes with geographic boundaries) is 
glibly said as "we can still have postal_codes on admin boundaries where the 
vast majority of addresses within that boundary have that postcode."

In the USA (in OSM) we say rather bluntly "ZIP codes are not boundaries."  (ZIP 
codes are USA postcodes).  It seems ABS agrees.  Putting them on entire admin 
boundaries, especially where they are not 100% correct (all of them?) adds 
noise to our data, which I am identifying and say "in the USA, we just don't do 
this" (as they are simply not the same).

Though, postcode tags on address nodes, sure.  Good way to do it, correct way 
to go, et cetera.

In the USA, OSM imported mid-2000s national census data to "lay down a road 
grid."  We continue to unravel and fully "TIGER Review" these data, 15 years 
later.  They are "noisily (though that gets better over time, with effort) 
mostly correct" today, but.

There is a wide distribution / spectrum of such (postal) data scattered around 
OSM in various jurisdictions.  I'm saying that at this level of conversation, 
pave the road smarter, rather than glibly or easily.  Good planning makes 
better maps.

Thank you for saying "fair point," too.  I hope I haven't beaten it up too 
much, so thank you to all for patience reading.
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