Hi,

The markers were installed by the railway, and are maintained by the railway. They are pole numbers attached to each telegraph pole along the railway. To help emergency services locate points along the railway Puffing Billy provided their location to ESTA with the "PBM" prefix.

As the railway created and maintains them I assume they are allowed to give permission for others to use them.

Regards,
Kim

On 26/11/21 4:56 pm, Adam Horan wrote:
Are these emergency markers created and maintained by the Puffing Billy Railway?

If not they might be sharing a dataset with you that they don't have permission to share for this purpose?

Adam

On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 at 16:24, <osm.talk...@thorsten.engler.id.au <mailto:osm.talk...@thorsten.engler.id.au>> wrote:

    Maybe just create a simple page on the wiki describing what you
    intent to do along with a link to information about the received
    permission? Just to make it easier to find in the future if there
    are any concerns.

    *From:*Andrew Harvey <andrew.harv...@gmail.com
    <mailto:andrew.harv...@gmail.com>>
    *Sent:* Friday, 26 November 2021 13:46
    *To:* Kim Oldfield <o...@oldfield.wattle.id.au
    <mailto:o...@oldfield.wattle.id.au>>
    *Cc:* OSM-Au <talk-au@openstreetmap.org
    <mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org>>
    *Subject:* Re: [talk-au] Importing 200 emergency markers?

    That sounds fine to me, this email consulting with the community,
    informing of your plan and what steps you've taken is enough in my
    opinion.

    I would ask if you could share more information about the
    permission you obtained? So long as you have sufficient rights to
    submit the data under the OSM contributor terms.

    On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 at 04:56, Kim Oldfield via Talk-au
    <talk-au@openstreetmap.org <mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org>> wrote:

        Hi,

        I have a list of 200 emergency marker locations along 22km of the
        Puffing Billy Railway which were provided to me by the railway
        with
        permission to include them in OSM.

        I've been reading through
        https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import
        <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import> -
        most of which appears to be geared toward larger imports and
        using
        publicly available data with various licenses. The data for my
        import is
        not publicly available, and was provided to me when I asked to
        import it
        into OSM.

        I've searched overpass-turbo and there are no
        highway=emergency_access_points, name~"PBM", or ref~"PBM" near
        the list
        of nodes I have to import. This indicates that none of the
        nodes are
        already mapped.

        Based on the example file on
        https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM_file_format
        <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM_file_format> I've
        converted the
        emergency marker list into xml, the start of which looks like:

        <?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?>
        <osm version="0.6">
        <node id="-3" lat="-37.907468" lon="145.36039">
           <tag k="ref" v="PBM003"/>
           <tag k="highway" v="emergency_access_point"/>
        </node>
        ...

        In JOSM I can import this file and merge the layer. I'm
        intending to
        then upload this with appropriate an comment noting that the
        data was
        provided by Puffing Billy Railway with permission to include
        it in OSM.

        I'm proposing to import this as a one off, single change set
        under my
        existing OSM username.

        Is this a reasonable way to do this import? Is there anything
        else I
        should do?

        Regards,
        Kim





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