Statement on Council website is : "This website and all content is copyright © 
Toowoomba Regional Council 2015. Material may be used for private purposes, but 
not reproduced without the permission of the Toowoomba Regional Council. 
Changes are periodically made to the information contained here."

Unfortunately the response to you was " ...  we can’t  issue an approval for 
you to use the data"  but they offered the hope that Council might eventually 
have a policy that might permit use. I'd suggest responding that you would 
request to be advised when the Council formulates and issues its policy.   But 
I interpret the response to mean that, at this time, OSM is not granted 
permission to use the data in the way that OSM requires.   

That is my view of the situation but I defer to any more knowledgeable 
responses.



On Thu, 9 Dec 2021, at 12:47 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
> After being up that way on holidays a few weeks ago, I found out that 
> Toowoomba Region Council have online maps for addresses etc:
> https://www.tr.qld.gov.au/payments-self-service-laws/web-apps/mapping/12731-online-mapping-2.
>
> Contacted Council to see if we could get permission to use them & this 
> is the result.
>
> So, does
> "Council doesn’t have an Open Data Policy at this time so we can’t 
> issue an approval for you to use the data" 
> +
> "You are welcome to use the data as a reference if you are manually 
> drawing in information" 
> mean that we can use it, or we can't?
>
> Or is it a 50/50 - we can't import the data, but we can use it manually?
>
> Thanks
>
> Graeme
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: *Adam Purves* <adam.pur...@tr.qld.gov.au>
> Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2021 at 09:38
> Subject: RE: Use of Council data in OpenStreetMap
> To: Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefi...@gmail.com>
> Cc: Chris Fogarty <chris.foga...@tr.qld.gov.au>, Sandra Sherriff 
> <sandra.sherr...@tr.qld.gov.au>
>
>
> Hi Graeme,____
> __ __
> Unfortunately, Council doesn’t have an Open Data Policy at this time so 
> we can’t issue an approval for you to use the data (This is the 
> mechanism by which Council would provide the requested approval).____
> __ __
> You are welcome to use the data as a reference if you are manually 
> drawing in information.____
> __ __
> Kind regards,____
> Adam.____
> *__ __*
> *Adam Purves*____
> *Coordinator Geospatial Information Management (GIS)*
> Information Communication and Technology
> 
> Toowoomba Regional Council
> PO Box 3021 Toowoomba QLD
> *P *07 4688 6681 <tel:07%204688%206681>  *E *6681  *IM 
> *sip:adam.pur...@tr.qld.gov.au
> adam.pur...@tr.qld.gov.au
> www.tr.qld.gov.au____
> __ __
> *From:* Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefi...@gmail.com> 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 8 December 2021 12:28 PM
> *To:* Adam Purves <adam.pur...@tr.qld.gov.au>
> *Cc:* Chris Fogarty <chris.foga...@tr.qld.gov.au>; Sandra Sherriff 
> <sandra.sherr...@tr.qld.gov.au>
> *Subject:* Re: Use of Council data in OpenStreetMap____
> __ __
> [External Email] This email was sent from outside the organisation - be 
> cautious, particularly with links and attachments. ____
>
> __ __
> Hi Adam____
> __ __
> Thanks for your very quick response.____
> __ __
> The CC licence, or lack of it, isn't a critical thing as long as we 
> have your explicit permission to make use of your data.____
> __ __
> As to how it would be used, personally, I would only be using it to 
> make manual updates of such things as parks, addresses etc, but other 
> people, who are more data savvy than I am!, may well look into 
> importing data sets.____
> __ __
> To see what sort of data has previously been made available to us from 
> other sources, please have a look at 
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_data_catalogue.____
> __ __
> If you would like to know more, I can pass your questions on to someone 
> whom I know is more heavily involved in data imports.____
> __ __
> Thanks ____
> __ __
> Graeme____
> __ __
> __ __
> On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 at 10:13, Adam Purves <adam.pur...@tr.qld.gov.au> 
> wrote:____
>> Hi Graeme,____
>>  ____
>> Thank you for your email.____
>>  ____
>> At this time Toowoomba Regional Council doesn’t have a Creative Commons 
>> licence available for our GIS data.____
>>  ____
>> Can I please clarify how you intend to use Council data in OSM? Are you 
>> intending to load the Council data directly into OSM, or are you using 
>> Council data as a reference and are manually drawing/updating OSM?____
>>  ____
>> Kind regards,____
>> Adam.____
>> * *____
>> *Adam Purves*____
>> *Coordinator Geospatial Information Management (GIS)*
>> Information Communication and Technology
>>  
>> Toowoomba Regional Council
>> PO Box 3021 Toowoomba QLD
>> *P *07 4688 6681 <tel:07%204688%206681>  *E *6681  *IM 
>> *sip:adam.pur...@tr.qld.gov.au
>> adam.pur...@tr.qld.gov.au
>> www.tr.qld.gov.au____
>>  ____
>> *From:* Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefi...@gmail.com> 
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 1 December 2021 3:33 PM
>> *To:* Toowoomba Regional Council <i...@tr.qld.gov.au>
>> *Subject:* Use of Council data in OpenStreetMap____
>>  ____
>> [External Email] This email was sent from outside the organisation - be 
>> cautious, particularly with links and attachments. ____
>> 
>>  ____
>> To whom it may concern____
>> 
>> I am a volunteer with OpenStreetMap <https://www.openstreetmap.org/>, a 
>> collaborative open project to create a global geodata set freely usable by 
>> anyone on share-alike and attribution terms under the Open Database License 
>> (ODbL) <http://opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/summary/>.____
>> 
>> After recently visiting Toowoomba Region, and while then adding and updating 
>> some details on OpenStreetMap, I noticed that you have online maps of the 
>> area available for use by the general public: 
>> https://www.tr.qld.gov.au/payments-self-service-laws/web-apps/mapping/12731-online-mapping-2.____
>> 
>> I can see, by looking at the Council pages online, that they are Copyright 
>> Toowoomba Regional Council, and that we need permission to reproduce them, 
>> but can’t see anything to say if they have been licensed for public use 
>> under a Creative Commons licence?____
>> 
>> I was wondering if we could get your permission to make use of these various 
>> maps to further upgrade the details shown on OSM?____
>> 
>> Could you please let me know whether you may be amenable to this idea, so we 
>> can discuss any further requirements?____
>> 
>> Thank you____
>> 
>> Graeme Fitzpatrick____
>> 
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