Bob, does Dian's latest draft address some of your concerns? https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines/Roads#Roadside_Rest_Areas
Thanks Graeme On Sat, 16 Apr 2022 at 14:39, Bob Cameron <bob3b...@skymesh.com.au> wrote: > Sorry I cant see where to add these points to the wiki, nor see the edit > evolution. No doubt I'll see some disagreements, but anyway! > > - Regarding "No Camping" signs within the rest area category. (Although > it could apply to any location) > It seems a bit long winded and not really useful for rendering > (boo-hiss-grin) that there is no direct correlation with camping keys. > The general "on the ground" camping that happens seems to be a case of > "anywhere that isn't excluded", so it makes logical sense to "name" a > (non) camping site, who says so, then mark it as access=no. > Rendering/reporting (boo/hiss) should exclude access=no from viable sites. > > No doubt it contras the ROW wiki but things are not the same everywhere. > And realising that camping/staying is an incredibly complex subject that > will get even worse as more population elects to stay mobile. People > will need to know what public places they aren't welcome in. > > Also in rest areas section > > - One of the dramas with local council (ie not highway) rest areas as > leisure=park is that the name is often the park name (only/already), so > the existence of the blue rest area "picnic table and tree" sign doesn't > really correlate. Naming a parking area works, but it isn't a rest area. > I don't have an answer for that one, although keep in mind that one of > the standard sub tags in "rest area" is operator. > > - Designated vs yes for hgv. I seem to remember that we don't input > legislation "stuff", but what is on the ground. I would prefer to think > "designated" (always) means there is a P+truck sign up, whereas "yes" > means it happens or is (judgement) possible. Informal parking/rest areas > would only ever have yes or no. This doesn't change the tagging so much > in the guidelines but the prewording to what the tag and road signs > actually equate to. I wonder if it is worth a few graphics? > > - Vehicle parking sizes have worried me for a while. hgv's can double in > size. Perhaps it should be a based on B-Double sizes? I don't have a > viable answer for this as there will be data out there already. What > does NHVR do for its informal (green dot) rest areas? (To do with > capacity or size) > > Cheers > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au >
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