Hey Kim,
Thanks for the great feedback!
Are all toll roads highway=motorway? All the ones I know in Victoria
are. If so, we should add tollways to the description of
highway=motorway
There was nothing documented in the previous version of the road
hierarchy about toll roads, but a quick overpass query shows that are
are a couple of toll roads are motorways, (Query [1]) notably Brunton
Avenue in Melbourne (tertiary), Go Between Bridge, Brisbane
Should that be "impractical"?
Yup, fixed.
Unnamed Roads should use "noname=yes" and not "noname=*". That's
probably what you intended, but may not be obvious to someone
encountering the noname tag for the first time.
Fixed, thanks.
Should we talk about pipestems in driveways, given recent discussions
on this list?
Yeah, I'm happy to add pipestem details; did we settle on
service=pipestem?
We should discourage the vague surface values of "paved" and "unpaved",
instead using more specific tags like asphalt and compacted. Can we
replace the example with something more specific than
"surface=unpaved"?
surface=gravel has it's own problems given the common use in Australia
is different to the wiki description. I'm not sure the best way to
address this.
I agree with you that we would want to encourage a more accurate tag.
From what I could see on the wiki and in overpass queries, there is a
lot of confusion about the surface tag. I would definitely welcome this
list revisiting the discussion, but I didn't feel confident changing
what was already there.
Dian
On 2022-04-18 07:10, Kim Oldfield via Talk-au wrote:
Hi Dian,
Some questions and comments.
Are all toll roads highway=motorway? All the ones I know in Victoria
are. If so, we should add tollways to the description of
highway=motorway
"Construction and maintenance of paved roads in profoundly remote
areas is both practical and uneconomical"
Should that be "impractical"?
We should discourage the vague surface values of "paved" and "unpaved",
instead using more specific tags like asphalt and compacted. Can we
replace the example with something more specific than
"surface=unpaved"?
surface=gravel has it's own problems given the common use in Australia
is different to the wiki description. I'm not sure the best way to
address this.
Should we talk about pipestems in driveways, given recent discussions
on this list?
Unnamed Roads should use "noname=yes" and not "noname=*". That's
probably what you intended, but may not be obvious to someone
encountering the noname tag for the first time.
Regards,
Kim
On 17/4/22 23:23, Dian Ågesson wrote:
Hello list,
Cleanup has of the Tagging Guidelines page is continuing.
The
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines/Australia%27s_First_Peoples
received positive feedback, and has now been integrated fully into the
page.
The second Tagging Guidelines subpage of the cleanu[ is ready for
community endorsement:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines/Roads.
This subpage was hard. This section had a lot of really old content,
some of which had been largely unchanged for a decade. There was a lot
of generic, non-Australia specific advice and explanations justifying
what is now well accepted tagging practices. I have tried my best to
update the wording of the relevant sections while keeping the intent
and advice within consistent with the original while removing outdated
information. I've also been guided by the actual usage of some of the
tags suggested, which have not been implemented despite their
documentation many years ago.
Please, review this page and let me know your thoughts and feedback.
If there are no objections, the old text from the guidelines will be
removed.
Dian
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