"Note 2— *U-turns are permitted at intersections without traffic lights*
unless there is a no U-turn sign, even though traffic lane arrows indicate
that the driver must or may turn right—see rule 92"

On Tue, 3 May 2022 at 08:59, Luke Stewart <suburbansilvervl...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> From *legislation.sa.gov.au <http://legislation.sa.gov.au>*:
>
> 40: " A driver must not make a U-turn at an intersection with traffic
> lights unless there is a U-turn permitted sign at the intersection."
>
> 41: " A driver must not make a U-turn at an intersection without traffic
> lights *if there is a no U-turn sign at the intersection*"
>
> In this case, it would be the same as NSW where you can make a U-turn at a
> median break provided there is no sign against it, and there is a right
> turn arrow (or no arrow) on the ground.
>
> You'll also find that the way you are replying to emails is incorrect, and
> has created several different threads:
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2022-May/thread.html
>
> On Tue, 3 May 2022 at 08:52, Anthony Panozzo <pan...@outlook.com> wrote:
>
>> This user is telling me I don’t even know the road rules LMAO, and just
>> to be clear again... you are arguing this guy is free to click all the
>> buttons without question and you are happy to defend every single one of
>> his edits
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 2 May 2022 22:44:40 +0000
>> From: Anthony Panozzo <pan...@outlook.com>
>> To: "talk-au@openstreetmap.org" <talk-au@openstreetmap.org>
>> Subject: Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 12
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>> You said this ?I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is
>> with this edit. The
>> road rules in South Australia allow you to do a u-turn around the end of a
>> median at an intersection provided that there is no sign prohibiting it or
>> traffic lights:? which is 100% incorrect, you can only do a u-turn if
>> there is a sign permitting you to do so. You don?t have the understanding
>> to be able to blindly click buttons from this state,ent alone, and yet
>> people will come to your defence lmao
>>
>>
>>
>> From: talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org<mailto:
>> talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2022 8:10 AM
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>>    1. Re: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: Talk-au Digest,
>>       Vol 179, Issue 6) (Andrew Davidson)
>>    2. TheSwavu (Anthony Panozzo)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 3 May 2022 08:33:00 +1000
>> From: Andrew Davidson <thesw...@gmail.com>
>> To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org
>> Subject: Re: [talk-au] U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re:
>>         Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
>> Message-ID: <80784b78-0628-85f3-f104-1f10b652d...@gmail.com>
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>> On 3/5/22 08:18, Anthony Panozzo wrote:
>> > Well this is the situation, TheSwavu is directly emailing me telling me
>> > it is perfectly legal to do u-turns at intersections
>>
>> Gmail will send an email to both the mail list and the original sender
>> by default on reply. You will have noticed the list email address in the
>> CC:. Or maybe you didn't notice?
>>
>> By the way, the link you sent me off-list:
>>
>> https://samotor.raa.com.au/do-you-know-the-u-turn-road-rules/
>>
>> says exactly the same thing I was trying to explain to you. Perhaps this
>> video might make it clearer:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0SzfStP1nE
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Mon, 2 May 2022 22:38:42 +0000
>> From: Anthony Panozzo <pan...@outlook.com>
>> To: "talk-au@openstreetmap.org" <talk-au@openstreetmap.org>
>> Subject: [talk-au] TheSwavu
>> Message-ID:
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>> By directly emailing me he trying to mess up the way au-talk is
>> formatting, no one here gets to see what he is emailing me, he has no clue
>> about the laws/rules or the areas, this is a joke
>>
>>
>>
>> From: talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org<mailto:
>> talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2022 8:04 AM
>> To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org>
>> Subject: Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 11
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>>    1. Re: New OSM Discourse site: community.osm.org (Andy Townsend)
>>    2. U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re:  Talk-au Digest, Vol
>>       179, Issue 6) (Andrew Davidson)
>>    3. Re: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: Talk-au Digest,
>>       Vol 179, Issue 6) (Anthony Panozzo)
>>    4. Re: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: Talk-au Digest,
>>       Vol 179, Issue 6) (Anthony Panozzo)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 2 May 2022 22:50:24 +0100
>> From: Andy Townsend <ajt1...@gmail.com>
>> To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org
>> Subject: Re: [talk-au] New OSM Discourse site: community.osm.org
>> Message-ID: <fff4b3e7-9fae-1404-764d-5c0566a11...@gmail.com>
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>> On 02/05/2022 22:36, Andrew Davidson wrote:
>> >
>> > How do we get a category we can interact with through email? I haven't
>> > used Discource enough to picture how it works.
>> >
>> If you enable mailing list mode in your profile, you will get emailed
>> all messages and can reply to them by email too.? What you can't yet do
>> is to create a new thread by email - to do that you'll need to go to
>> e.g. https://community.openstreetmap.org/c/help-and-support/7 and click
>> "new topic".
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Tue, 3 May 2022 08:00:50 +1000
>> From: Andrew Davidson <thesw...@gmail.com>
>> To: Anthony Panozzo <pan...@outlook.com>
>> Cc: OpenStreetMap <talk-au@openstreetmap.org>
>> Subject: [talk-au] U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re:  Talk-au
>>         Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
>> Message-ID:
>>         <
>> cacxr7k04v4tzc+sr8xqdypndrttwsz4ao0cozoc+hjiegqu...@mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> On Tue, 3 May 2022, 03:02 Anthony Panozzo, <pan...@outlook.com> wrote:
>>
>> >  I would like to report theswavu for this edit Relation History:
>> 13736691
>> > | OpenStreetMap <
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13736691/history>
>> > he deleted a restriction I put there to prevent u-turning from the
>> service
>> > road.
>> >
>>
>> I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is with this edit.
>> The
>> road rules in South Australia allow you to do a u-turn around the end of a
>> median at an intersection provided that there is no sign prohibiting it or
>> traffic lights:
>>
>> https://www.approveddrivingschool.com.au/mastering-u-turns-3-point-turns/
>>
>> There is no sign or traffic lights at this intersection so you are allowed
>> to do a u-turn, provided that you adhere to the other associated rules:
>>
>> https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1365151817189473
>>
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Mon, 2 May 2022 22:18:15 +0000
>> From: Anthony Panozzo <pan...@outlook.com>
>> To: "talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org"
>>         <talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org>
>> Cc: OpenStreetMap <talk-au@openstreetmap.org>
>> Subject: Re: [talk-au] U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re:
>>         Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
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>> Well this is the situation, TheSwavu is directly emailing me telling me
>> it is perfectly legal to do u-turns at intersections, lmao he doesn?t know
>> the laws, he doesn?t know the area, he cant be trusted to blindly click
>> buttons but so many people are arguing he is perfectly fine to go about his
>> edits I hope DWG see this Do you know the U-turn road rules? | samotor The
>> RAA Magazine<
>> https://samotor.raa.com.au/do-you-know-the-u-turn-road-rules/#:~:text=If%20you%E2%80%99ve%20seen%20a%20fellow%20driver%20doing%20a,you%20can%20perform%20this%20manoeuvre%20at%20this%20location.
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Andrew Davidson<mailto:thesw...@gmail.com <thesw...@gmail.com>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2022 7:31 AM
>> To: Anthony Panozzo<mailto:pan...@outlook.com <pan...@outlook.com>>
>> Cc: OpenStreetMap<mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org
>> <talk-au@openstreetmap.org>>
>> Subject: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: [talk-au] Talk-au
>> Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
>>
>> On Tue, 3 May 2022, 03:02 Anthony Panozzo, <pan...@outlook.com<mailto:
>> pan...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>>  I would like to report theswavu for this edit Relation History: 13736691
>> | OpenStreetMap<https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13736691/history>
>> he deleted a restriction I put there to prevent u-turning from the service
>> road.
>>
>> I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is with this edit.
>> The road rules in South Australia allow you to do a u-turn around the end
>> of a median at an intersection provided that there is no sign prohibiting
>> it or traffic lights:
>>
>> https://www.approveddrivingschool.com.au/mastering-u-turns-3-point-turns/
>>
>> There is no sign or traffic lights at this intersection so you are
>> allowed to do a u-turn, provided that you adhere to the other associated
>> rules:
>>
>> https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1365151817189473
>>
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Mon, 2 May 2022 22:30:13 +0000
>> From: Anthony Panozzo <pan...@outlook.com>
>> To: Andrew Davidson <thesw...@gmail.com>, "talk-au@openstreetmap.org"
>>         <talk-au@openstreetmap.org>
>> Cc: OpenStreetMap <talk-au@openstreetmap.org>
>> Subject: Re: [talk-au] U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re:
>>         Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
>> Message-ID:
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>>
>> Well this is the situation, TheSwavu is directly emailing me telling me
>> it is perfectly legal to do u-turns at intersections, lmao he doesn?t know
>> the laws, he doesn?t know the area, he cant be trusted to blindly click
>> buttons but so many people are arguing he is perfectly fine to go about his
>> edits I hope DWG see this
>> Do you know the U-turn road rules? | samotor The RAA Magazine<
>> https://samotor.raa.com.au/do-you-know-the-u-turn-road-rules/#:~:text=If%20you%E2%80%99ve%20seen%20a%20fellow%20driver%20doing%20a,you%20can%20perform%20this%20manoeuvre%20at%20this%20location.
>> >
>>
>> And he didn?t even watch the video in the link he sent me either, this is
>> a complete joke, keep in mind you are arguing FOR this guy to keep going
>> about his edits freely with out question this blow my mind, you would
>> rather win an argument than care 1 bit about the map
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Andrew Davidson <thesw...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2022 7:30:50 AM
>> To: Anthony Panozzo <pan...@outlook.com>
>> Cc: OpenStreetMap <talk-au@openstreetmap.org>
>> Subject: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: [talk-au] Talk-au
>> Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
>>
>> On Tue, 3 May 2022, 03:02 Anthony Panozzo, <pan...@outlook.com<mailto:
>> pan...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>>
>>  I would like to report theswavu for this edit Relation History: 13736691
>> | OpenStreetMap<https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13736691/history>
>> he deleted a restriction I put there to prevent u-turning from the service
>> road.
>>
>> I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is with this edit.
>> The road rules in South Australia allow you to do a u-turn around the end
>> of a median at an intersection provided that there is no sign prohibiting
>> it or traffic lights:
>>
>> https://www.approveddrivingschool.com.au/mastering-u-turns-3-point-turns/
>>
>> There is no sign or traffic lights at this intersection so you are
>> allowed to do a u-turn, provided that you adhere to the other associated
>> rules:
>>
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