The diagram posted by Dian clearly shows that this type of movement is
permitted, again: https://imgur.com/a/Wn6jx8h. If you disagree I suggest
handing in your license.

On Tue, 3 May 2022 at 10:57, Anthony Panozzo <pan...@outlook.com> wrote:

> No it would not because its a one way road lmao
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> *Sent: *Tuesday, 3 May 2022 10:12 AM
> *To: *talk-au@openstreetmap.org
> *Subject: *Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 28
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 3 May 2022 10:40:53 +1000
> From: Luke Stewart <suburbansilvervl...@gmail.com>
> To: Anthony Panozzo <pan...@outlook.com>
> Cc: Dian ?gesson <m...@diacritic.xyz>, "talk-au@openstreetmap.org"
>         <talk-au@openstreetmap.org>
> Subject: Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 13
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> It would still meet the criteria of an "intersection" under rules 40 and 41
> hence making it legal
>
> On Tue, 3 May 2022 at 10:34, Anthony Panozzo <pan...@outlook.com> wrote:
>
> > That picture is about an intersection not a T-intersection lmao
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *From: *Dian ?gesson <m...@diacritic.xyz>
> > *Sent: *Tuesday, 3 May 2022 9:59 AM
> > *To: *Anthony Panozzo <pan...@outlook.com>
> > *Cc: *Luke Stewart <suburbansilvervl...@gmail.com>;
> > talk-au@openstreetmap.org
> > *Subject: *Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 13
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Anthony,
> >
> >
> >
> > Below is a picture from the South Australian Road Rules. It shows the
> > correct procedure for a u-turn there would be exactly from that point of
> > view and back, including a small section of a "one-way" road.
> >
> > https://imgur.com/a/Wn6jx8h
> >
> > As the others earlier have mentioned, I would encourage you to take a
> > moment to take a step back and consider these points, as this type of
> rapid
> > fire back-and-forth is not particularly efficient.
> >
> > Would you also be able to provide some details about how the routing is
> > being tested? It would really help identify down-stream data consumers
> that
> > may be interpreting OSM data differently than expected.
> >
> >
> >
> > Dian
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2022-05-03 10:28, Anthony Panozzo wrote:
> >
> > No it is not because the road in front of the POV car in a one way road
> > which is not allowed, it would even need you to drive for a little bit
> > going the wrong way lmao.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *From: *Luke Stewart <suburbansilvervl...@gmail.com>
> > *Sent: *Tuesday, 3 May 2022 9:52 AM
> > *To: *Anthony Panozzo <pan...@outlook.com>
> > *Cc: *Dian ?gesson <m...@diacritic.xyz>; talk-au@openstreetmap.org
> > *Subject: *Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 13
> >
> >
> >
> > It is also acceptable from the point of view of the camera as stated in
> > the Road Rules.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 3 May 2022 at 10:18, Anthony Panozzo <pan...@outlook.com> wrote:
> >
> > Yes at the median is fine, but not from where the point of view of that
> > picture is. TheSwavu has allowed u-turns starting from exactly the point
> of
> > view of that picture and back
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *From: *Luke Stewart <suburbansilvervl...@gmail.com>
> > *Sent: *Tuesday, 3 May 2022 9:28 AM
> > *To: *Anthony Panozzo <pan...@outlook.com>
> > *Cc: *Dian ?gesson <m...@diacritic.xyz>; talk-au@openstreetmap.org
> > *Subject: *Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 13
> >
> >
> >
> > The intersection shown in mapillary without traffic lights
> >
> https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=764585334231385&lat=-34.72009104&lng=138.66975917&z=17&focus=photo
> > would be one where performing a u-turn is allowed. As you go along the
> > mapillary trace, you can even see two different vehicles making u-turns
> in
> > median breaks.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 3 May 2022 at 09:52, Anthony Panozzo <pan...@outlook.com> wrote:
> >
> > You are wrong, you can not do u-turns at t-intersections on a one way
> road
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *From: *Dian ?gesson <m...@diacritic.xyz>
> > *Sent: *Tuesday, 3 May 2022 8:39 AM
> > *To: *Anthony Panozzo <pan...@outlook.com>
> > *Cc: *talk-au@openstreetmap.org
> > *Subject: *Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 13
> >
> >
> >
> > Anthony,
> >
> > This user is telling me I don't even know the road rules LMAO, and just
> to
> > be clear again... you are arguing this guy is free to click all the
> buttons
> > without question and you are happy to defend every single one of his
> edits
> >
> > Speaking personally, I am not defending every single one of his edits, as
> > I have not reviewed them all.
> >
> > However, every edit that you've referred to in this mail chain as being
> > "wrong" hasn't had any issues. We've covered:
> >
> > - Deleting a restriction which does not contain a from/to way (valid)
> >
> > - remodelling intersections to remove crosses (valid)
> >
> > - adding a u turn using a way as a "via" member (valid)
> >
> > And you have now raised a different type of problem,
> >
> > - Removing a u turn restriction at an intersection with no traffic
> lights.
> >
> > On the latter point, I quote
> >
> >
> >
> https://www.legislation.sa.gov.au/__legislation/lz/c/r/australian%20road%20rules/current/2014.205.auth.pdf
> >
> > A driver must not make a U-turn at an intersection without traffic
> lights *if
> > there is a no U-turn sign at the intersection*"
> >
> > Note 2?
> > U-turns are permitted at intersections without traffic lights unless
> there
> > is a no U-turn sign, even though traffic lane arrows indicate that the
> > driver must or may turn right?see rule 92.
> >
> > this is now the fourth type of error which isn't actually wrong.
> >
> > If there is a valid issue, then obviously it should be fixed. But I am
> > unable to identify a problem in the edits you've raised.
> >
> > Please, take a deep breath and consider some of the points raised before
> > responding with another flurry of emails.
> >
> > dian
> >
> >
> > On 2022-05-02 22:49, Anthony Panozzo wrote:
> >
> > This user is telling me I don't even know the road rules LMAO, and just
> to
> > be clear again... you are arguing this guy is free to click all the
> buttons
> > without question and you are happy to defend every single one of his
> edits
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *From: *talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org
> > *Sent: *Tuesday, 3 May 2022 8:16 AM
> > *To: *talk-au@openstreetmap.org
> > *Subject: *Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 13
> >
> >
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> >
> >    1. Re: Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 12 (Anthony Panozzo)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Mon, 2 May 2022 22:44:40 +0000
> > From: Anthony Panozzo <pan...@outlook.com>
> > To: "talk-au@openstreetmap.org" <talk-au@openstreetmap.org>
> > Subject: Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 12
> > Message-ID:
> >         <
> >
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> >
> > You said this ?I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is
> > with this edit. The
> > road rules in South Australia allow you to do a u-turn around the end of
> a
> > median at an intersection provided that there is no sign prohibiting it
> or
> > traffic lights:? which is 100% incorrect, you can only do a u-turn if
> > there is a sign permitting you to do so. You don?t have the understanding
> > to be able to blindly click buttons from this state,ent alone, and yet
> > people will come to your defence lmao
> >
> >
> >
> > From: talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org<mailto:
> > talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2022 8:10 AM
> > To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org>
> > Subject: Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 12
> >
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> > Today's Topics:
> >
> >    1. Re: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: Talk-au Digest,
> >       Vol 179, Issue 6) (Andrew Davidson)
> >    2. TheSwavu (Anthony Panozzo)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Tue, 3 May 2022 08:33:00 +1000
> > From: Andrew Davidson <thesw...@gmail.com>
> > To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org
> > Subject: Re: [talk-au] U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re:
> >         Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
> > Message-ID: <80784b78-0628-85f3-f104-1f10b652d...@gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
> >
> > On 3/5/22 08:18, Anthony Panozzo wrote:
> > > Well this is the situation, TheSwavu is directly emailing me telling me
> > > it is perfectly legal to do u-turns at intersections
> >
> > Gmail will send an email to both the mail list and the original sender
> > by default on reply. You will have noticed the list email address in the
> > CC:. Or maybe you didn't notice?
> >
> > By the way, the link you sent me off-list:
> >
> > https://samotor.raa.com.au/do-you-know-the-u-turn-road-rules/
> >
> > says exactly the same thing I was trying to explain to you. Perhaps this
> > video might make it clearer:
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0SzfStP1nE
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Mon, 2 May 2022 22:38:42 +0000
> > From: Anthony Panozzo <pan...@outlook.com>
> > To: "talk-au@openstreetmap.org" <talk-au@openstreetmap.org>
> > Subject: [talk-au] TheSwavu
> > Message-ID:
> >         <
> >
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> > >
> >
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > By directly emailing me he trying to mess up the way au-talk is
> > formatting, no one here gets to see what he is emailing me, he has no
> clue
> > about the laws/rules or the areas, this is a joke
> >
> >
> >
> > From: talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org<mailto:
> > talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2022 8:04 AM
> > To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org>
> > Subject: Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 11
> >
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> >
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> > than "Re: Contents of Talk-au digest..."
> >
> >
> > Today's Topics:
> >
> >    1. Re: New OSM Discourse site: community.osm.org (Andy Townsend)
> >    2. U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re:  Talk-au Digest, Vol
> >       179, Issue 6) (Andrew Davidson)
> >    3. Re: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: Talk-au Digest,
> >       Vol 179, Issue 6) (Anthony Panozzo)
> >    4. Re: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: Talk-au Digest,
> >       Vol 179, Issue 6) (Anthony Panozzo)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Mon, 2 May 2022 22:50:24 +0100
> > From: Andy Townsend <ajt1...@gmail.com>
> > To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org
> > Subject: Re: [talk-au] New OSM Discourse site: community.osm.org
> > Message-ID: <fff4b3e7-9fae-1404-764d-5c0566a11...@gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
> >
> > On 02/05/2022 22:36, Andrew Davidson wrote:
> > >
> > > How do we get a category we can interact with through email? I haven't
> > > used Discource enough to picture how it works.
> > >
> > If you enable mailing list mode in your profile, you will get emailed
> > all messages and can reply to them by email too.? What you can't yet do
> > is to create a new thread by email - to do that you'll need to go to
> > e.g. https://community.openstreetmap.org/c/help-and-support/7 and click
> > "new topic".
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Tue, 3 May 2022 08:00:50 +1000
> > From: Andrew Davidson <thesw...@gmail.com>
> > To: Anthony Panozzo <pan...@outlook.com>
> > Cc: OpenStreetMap <talk-au@openstreetmap.org>
> > Subject: [talk-au] U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re:  Talk-au
> >         Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
> > Message-ID:
> >         <
> > cacxr7k04v4tzc+sr8xqdypndrttwsz4ao0cozoc+hjiegqu...@mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > On Tue, 3 May 2022, 03:02 Anthony Panozzo, <pan...@outlook.com> wrote:
> >
> > >  I would like to report theswavu for this edit Relation History:
> 13736691
> > > | OpenStreetMap <
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13736691/history
> > >
> > > he deleted a restriction I put there to prevent u-turning from the
> > service
> > > road.
> > >
> >
> > I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is with this edit.
> The
> > road rules in South Australia allow you to do a u-turn around the end of
> a
> > median at an intersection provided that there is no sign prohibiting it
> or
> > traffic lights:
> >
> >
> https://www.approveddrivingschool.com.au/mastering-u-turns-3-point-turns/
> >
> > There is no sign or traffic lights at this intersection so you are
> allowed
> > to do a u-turn, provided that you adhere to the other associated rules:
> >
> > https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1365151817189473
> >
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> > Message: 3
> > Date: Mon, 2 May 2022 22:18:15 +0000
> > From: Anthony Panozzo <pan...@outlook.com>
> > To: "talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org"
> >         <talk-au-requ...@openstreetmap.org>
> > Cc: OpenStreetMap <talk-au@openstreetmap.org>
> > Subject: Re: [talk-au] U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re:
> >         Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
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> > Well this is the situation, TheSwavu is directly emailing me telling me
> it
> > is perfectly legal to do u-turns at intersections, lmao he doesn?t know
> the
> > laws, he doesn?t know the area, he cant be trusted to blindly click
> buttons
> > but so many people are arguing he is perfectly fine to go about his
> edits I
> > hope DWG see this Do you know the U-turn road rules? | samotor The RAA
> > Magazine<
> >
> https://samotor.raa.com.au/do-you-know-the-u-turn-road-rules/#:~:text=If%20you%E2%80%99ve%20seen%20a%20fellow%20driver%20doing%20a,you%20can%20perform%20this%20manoeuvre%20at%20this%20location
> .
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Andrew Davidson<mailto:thesw...@gmail.com <thesw...@gmail.com>>
> > Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2022 7:31 AM
> > To: Anthony Panozzo<mailto:pan...@outlook.com <pan...@outlook.com>>
> > Cc: OpenStreetMap<mailto:talk-au@openstreetmap.org
> > <talk-au@openstreetmap.org>>
> > Subject: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: [talk-au] Talk-au
> > Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
> >
> > On Tue, 3 May 2022, 03:02 Anthony Panozzo, <pan...@outlook.com<mailto:
> > pan...@outlook.com>> wrote:
> >  I would like to report theswavu for this edit Relation History: 13736691
> > | OpenStreetMap<https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13736691/history>
> > he deleted a restriction I put there to prevent u-turning from the
> service
> > road.
> >
> > I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is with this edit.
> > The road rules in South Australia allow you to do a u-turn around the end
> > of a median at an intersection provided that there is no sign prohibiting
> > it or traffic lights:
> >
> >
> https://www.approveddrivingschool.com.au/mastering-u-turns-3-point-turns/
> >
> > There is no sign or traffic lights at this intersection so you are
> allowed
> > to do a u-turn, provided that you adhere to the other associated rules:
> >
> > https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1365151817189473
> >
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> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Mon, 2 May 2022 22:30:13 +0000
> > From: Anthony Panozzo <pan...@outlook.com>
> > To: Andrew Davidson <thesw...@gmail.com>, "talk-au@openstreetmap.org"
> >         <talk-au@openstreetmap.org>
> > Cc: OpenStreetMap <talk-au@openstreetmap.org>
> > Subject: Re: [talk-au] U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re:
> >         Talk-au Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
> > Message-ID:
> >         <
> >
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> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
> >
> > Well this is the situation, TheSwavu is directly emailing me telling me
> it
> > is perfectly legal to do u-turns at intersections, lmao he doesn?t know
> the
> > laws, he doesn?t know the area, he cant be trusted to blindly click
> buttons
> > but so many people are arguing he is perfectly fine to go about his
> edits I
> > hope DWG see this
> > Do you know the U-turn road rules? | samotor The RAA Magazine<
> >
> https://samotor.raa.com.au/do-you-know-the-u-turn-road-rules/#:~:text=If%20you%E2%80%99ve%20seen%20a%20fellow%20driver%20doing%20a,you%20can%20perform%20this%20manoeuvre%20at%20this%20location
> .
> > >
> >
> > And he didn?t even watch the video in the link he sent me either, this is
> > a complete joke, keep in mind you are arguing FOR this guy to keep going
> > about his edits freely with out question this blow my mind, you would
> > rather win an argument than care 1 bit about the map
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Andrew Davidson <thesw...@gmail.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2022 7:30:50 AM
> > To: Anthony Panozzo <pan...@outlook.com>
> > Cc: OpenStreetMap <talk-au@openstreetmap.org>
> > Subject: U-turn rules in South Australia (Was Re: [talk-au] Talk-au
> > Digest, Vol 179, Issue 6)
> >
> > On Tue, 3 May 2022, 03:02 Anthony Panozzo, <pan...@outlook.com<mailto:
> > pan...@outlook.com>> wrote:
> >
> >  I would like to report theswavu for this edit Relation History: 13736691
> > | OpenStreetMap<https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13736691/history>
> > he deleted a restriction I put there to prevent u-turning from the
> service
> > road.
> >
> > I'm not sure I understand what you think the problem is with this edit.
> > The road rules in South Australia allow you to do a u-turn around the end
> > of a median at an intersection provided that there is no sign prohibiting
> > it or traffic lights:
> >
> >
> https://www.approveddrivingschool.com.au/mastering-u-turns-3-point-turns/
> >
> > There is no sign or traffic lights at this intersection so you are
> allowed
> > to do a u-turn, provided that you adhere to the other associated rules:
> >
> > https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1365151817189473
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